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**Wheldcobchoto** · 06-13-2012, 05:43 PM

I understand your curiosity. Don't forget that even if someone works hard or not, all these materialistic success come form Allah the almighty alone. His/her success is NOT because he/she worked hard, its the Mercy of Allah Ta'ala(but that does not justify us not working for it-refer the hadith of tying the camel) . Also when Muslims turn away from Islam, success is given to others. Sometimes even if we are good Muslims, success in this world is given to the disbelievers.

Its answered by Allah Ta'ala in the Quran.

1. "So let not their (disbelievers and hypocrites) wealth or their children amaze you; in reality Allâh’s Plan is to punish them with these things in the life of the this world, and that their souls shall depart (die) while they are disbelievers." (Qur’an 9:55)

So its imminent that the non-muslims will be successful in this world, because its a test for us Muslims. So that we understand Dunya is theirs and Akhirah is ours.

May Allah make us from the Sabireen. ameen.

Bro, the above aayah, Mufti taqi usmani sab damat barkaatuhum has translated in this manner:

[9:55]
So, their wealth and their children should not attract you. In fact, Allah intends to punish them with these in this lowly life and that their souls should depart while they are disbelievers.

Bro, I intended to use the word "amaze" in terms of intrigue, not admiration/reverence for it, though I will readily accept I might have had that as well, as a result of my uncultured nafs. Also I do not mean to compare ourselves with them or anything of that sort bro. Its just a non-serious curiosity towards historical, community level traits or anything deeper that is playing any part, at the apparent level.

Nevertheless, I would also like to ask, is it wrong to be curious about the tadbeer, sabab (means) part of anything? Of course, Allah swt's decree is what makes anything and everything happen> It is a given and its the overruling thing, which should be beyond an iota of doubt - but for gaining insight into any issue, if we just resign ourselves to saying it is what Maalik swt has ordained (which is a given, basic truth), we wont have any lessons or insights to gather.

After all, to go on a slight tangent, it is a question of what asbaab (means or efforts) or tadbeer we adopted, within the ekhtiyaaraat (volition, zone of control) we have been given, that we are accountable for.

Also, I agree, the frames-of-reference of leading a life, motivating factors and intention towards anything for muslims and non-muslims are entirely different and contrasting, but is it wrong to observe any trends and take some insights from it for ourselves? (though in this case its more of curiosity than try to gather any inspiration).

Kindly correct me if I am doing mistakes in what I am saying, bro...its been some time since I am getting any pious maahol or efforts of deen due to my constraints and the dirt in my fikr might have gone to abhorrent levels.

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Wheldcobchoto Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 474 Senior Member	I understand your curiosity. Don't forget that even if someone works hard or not, all these materialistic success come form Allah the almighty alone. His/her success is NOT because he/she worked hard, its the Mercy of Allah Ta'ala(but that does not justify us not working for it-refer the hadith of tying the camel) . Also when Muslims turn away from Islam, success is given to others. Sometimes even if we are good Muslims, success in this world is given to the disbelievers. Its answered by Allah Ta'ala in the Quran. 1. "So let not their (disbelievers and hypocrites) wealth or their children amaze you; in reality Allâh’s Plan is to punish them with these things in the life of the this world, and that their souls shall depart (die) while they are disbelievers." (Qur’an 9:55) So its imminent that the non-muslims will be successful in this world, because its a test for us Muslims. So that we understand Dunya is theirs and Akhirah is ours. May Allah make us from the Sabireen. ameen. Bro, the above aayah, Mufti taqi usmani sab damat barkaatuhum has translated in this manner: [9:55] So, their wealth and their children should not attract you. In fact, Allah intends to punish them with these in this lowly life and that their souls should depart while they are disbelievers. Bro, I intended to use the word "amaze" in terms of intrigue, not admiration/reverence for it, though I will readily accept I might have had that as well, as a result of my uncultured nafs. Also I do not mean to compare ourselves with them or anything of that sort bro. Its just a non-serious curiosity towards historical, community level traits or anything deeper that is playing any part, at the apparent level. Nevertheless, I would also like to ask, is it wrong to be curious about the tadbeer, sabab (means) part of anything? Of course, Allah swt's decree is what makes anything and everything happen> It is a given and its the overruling thing, which should be beyond an iota of doubt - but for gaining insight into any issue, if we just resign ourselves to saying it is what Maalik swt has ordained (which is a given, basic truth), we wont have any lessons or insights to gather. After all, to go on a slight tangent, it is a question of what asbaab (means or efforts) or tadbeer we adopted, within the ekhtiyaaraat (volition, zone of control) we have been given, that we are accountable for. Also, I agree, the frames-of-reference of leading a life, motivating factors and intention towards anything for muslims and non-muslims are entirely different and contrasting, but is it wrong to observe any trends and take some insights from it for ourselves? (though in this case its more of curiosity than try to gather any inspiration). Kindly correct me if I am doing mistakes in what I am saying, bro...its been some time since I am getting any pious maahol or efforts of deen due to my constraints and the dirt in my fikr might have gone to abhorrent levels.
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