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**Clarissa** · 06-13-2012, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by amr123 What about Shaykh Uthaymeen saying Imam Nawawi erred in his aqeedah. There is recording of it in youtube with subtitles. I cant find it out right now. I mean if people start saying Imam Nawawi erred in his aqeedah, then who are the people of haqq... ya akhi?

Not to mention Shaykh Albani...

Edit: Bro, I was a salafi for sometime, but I couldn't take it. I mean labeling so many great ulemas as deviants... I just couldn't take it.

According to Zahid al-Kawthari al-Ash'ari, not only did nearly every direct student of Imam Ahmad err in his aqeedah, but some of them (in particular, his son, Abdullah bin Ahmad bin Hanbal

) were labeled patrons of shirk and wathaniyya (statue-worship).

In addition, Ibn Qudama

was a mujassim, Ibn Khuzayma (one of the great early shafi'is), Ibn Abi Hatim, ad-Daraqutni, Imam al-Lailaka'i, al-Khatib al-Baghdadi, al-Humaydi, Abu Bakr al-Khallal (the pivot and codifier of the Hanbali mad'hab)...

The list goes on.

Suffice it to say that this trait you dislike is certainly not exclusive to Salafis.

The Prophet sallallâhu ’alayhi wa sallam said:
“I advise you to have taqwâ of Allâh and to hear and to obey, even if an Abyssinian slave becomes your leader. Those of you who live long after me will see a lot of differences, so hold fast to my Sunnah and to the Sunnah of the Rightly-Guided Khalîfahs after me. Cling to it tightly and beware of newly-invented matters, for every newly invented matter is an innovation, and every innovation is misguidance, and all misguidance is in the Fire. Abû Dâwûd (no.4607), at-Tirmidhî (no.2676)

So we are not oblige to follow "a 7th century" scholar if any differences occur, esp. Hanafis

, b/c Imam Abu Hanifah r.a was not "Shaf'e", Ashari or Maturidi

06-13-2012, 11:27 PM	#28
Clarissa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 441 Senior Member	Originally Posted by amr123 What about Shaykh Uthaymeen saying Imam Nawawi erred in his aqeedah. There is recording of it in youtube with subtitles. I cant find it out right now. I mean if people start saying Imam Nawawi erred in his aqeedah, then who are the people of haqq... ya akhi? Not to mention Shaykh Albani... Edit: Bro, I was a salafi for sometime, but I couldn't take it. I mean labeling so many great ulemas as deviants... I just couldn't take it. According to Zahid al-Kawthari al-Ash'ari, not only did nearly every direct student of Imam Ahmad err in his aqeedah, but some of them (in particular, his son, Abdullah bin Ahmad bin Hanbal ) were labeled patrons of shirk and wathaniyya (statue-worship). In addition, Ibn Qudama was a mujassim, Ibn Khuzayma (one of the great early shafi'is), Ibn Abi Hatim, ad-Daraqutni, Imam al-Lailaka'i, al-Khatib al-Baghdadi, al-Humaydi, Abu Bakr al-Khallal (the pivot and codifier of the Hanbali mad'hab)... The list goes on. Suffice it to say that this trait you dislike is certainly not exclusive to Salafis. The Prophet sallallâhu ’alayhi wa sallam said: “I advise you to have taqwâ of Allâh and to hear and to obey, even if an Abyssinian slave becomes your leader. Those of you who live long after me will see a lot of differences, so hold fast to my Sunnah and to the Sunnah of the Rightly-Guided Khalîfahs after me. Cling to it tightly and beware of newly-invented matters, for every newly invented matter is an innovation, and every innovation is misguidance, and all misguidance is in the Fire. Abû Dâwûd (no.4607), at-Tirmidhî (no.2676) So we are not oblige to follow "a 7th century" scholar if any differences occur, esp. Hanafis , b/c Imam Abu Hanifah r.a was not "Shaf'e", Ashari or Maturidi
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