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**Futfwrca** · 06-13-2012, 11:36 PM

According to Zahid al-Kawthari al-Ash'ari, not only did nearly every direct student of Imam Ahmad err in his aqeedah, but some of them (in particular, his son, Abdullah bin Ahmad bin Hanbal ) were labeled patrons of shirk and wathaniyya (statue-worship).

In addition, Ibn Qudama was a mujassim, Ibn Khuzayma (one of the great early shafi'is), Ibn Abi Hatim, ad-Daraqutni, Imam al-Lailaka'i, al-Khatib al-Baghdadi, al-Humaydi, Abu Bakr al-Khallal (the pivot and codifier of the Hanbali mad'hab)...

The list goes on.

Suffice it to say that this trait you dislike is certainly not exclusive to Salafis.

jazak allahu khair akh

our ulema HAVE differed in aqeedah, thats a sad fact that we have to accept.

Yet when teh haddadis burnt imam nawawis books, the salafis severely refuted them, and continue to study and memorise teh books of imam an nawawi to this day, and otehr ashari leaning ulema like ibn hajr, ibn hazm etc.

We have many great ulema from ashari and athari schools of thought, ibn taimiyyah during teh attack of teh mongols, fought jihad and incited the peopel of sham to fight, he didnt waste time refuting them for disagreements, yet we are now in a worse position than the ummah of taht time, and we are being battered worse than we were by the mongols, so perhaps now isnt a good time for salafi deobandi polemics?

06-13-2012, 11:36 PM	#30
Futfwrca Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 424 Senior Member	According to Zahid al-Kawthari al-Ash'ari, not only did nearly every direct student of Imam Ahmad err in his aqeedah, but some of them (in particular, his son, Abdullah bin Ahmad bin Hanbal ) were labeled patrons of shirk and wathaniyya (statue-worship). In addition, Ibn Qudama was a mujassim, Ibn Khuzayma (one of the great early shafi'is), Ibn Abi Hatim, ad-Daraqutni, Imam al-Lailaka'i, al-Khatib al-Baghdadi, al-Humaydi, Abu Bakr al-Khallal (the pivot and codifier of the Hanbali mad'hab)... The list goes on. Suffice it to say that this trait you dislike is certainly not exclusive to Salafis. jazak allahu khair akh our ulema HAVE differed in aqeedah, thats a sad fact that we have to accept. Yet when teh haddadis burnt imam nawawis books, the salafis severely refuted them, and continue to study and memorise teh books of imam an nawawi to this day, and otehr ashari leaning ulema like ibn hajr, ibn hazm etc. We have many great ulema from ashari and athari schools of thought, ibn taimiyyah during teh attack of teh mongols, fought jihad and incited the peopel of sham to fight, he didnt waste time refuting them for disagreements, yet we are now in a worse position than the ummah of taht time, and we are being battered worse than we were by the mongols, so perhaps now isnt a good time for salafi deobandi polemics?
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