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**ffdfriendforurr** · 06-13-2012, 11:36 PM

then why dont you discredit zahid-al kawthari's opinion as personal as well?
and which asharis today hold the view that atharis are deviated?this is the precise word.

Probably most of them. By far the vast majority in the Arab world do. This is reflected by, say, Mufti Abdur-Rahman ibn Yusuf, who called Ibn Taymiyyah a 'Crypto-anthropomorphist' in one of his lectures, Mufti ibn Adam al-Kawthari's lectures, and of course GF Haddad's tirades. As for the rest of Deoband, I cannot say, because there does not seem to be one unified opinion amongst them, as evinced by the stance of Mufti Usmani.

We have many great ulema from ashari and athari schools of thought, ibn taimiyyah during teh attack of teh mongols, fought jihad and incited the peopel of sham to fight, he didnt waste time refuting them for disagreements, yet we are now in a worse position than the ummah of taht time, and we are being battered worse than we were by the mongols, so perhaps now isnt a good time for salafi deobandi polemics? Yes, that is true, there are many great ulema from the Ash'aris, like al-Izz bin Abdus-Salam and his likes.

The point of my post was to ensure that everyone was aware that the trait amr123 objects to is not exclusive to one group of people. Now that such a job is done, I am done myself.

06-13-2012, 11:36 PM	#31
ffdfriendforurr Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 517 Senior Member	then why dont you discredit zahid-al kawthari's opinion as personal as well? and which asharis today hold the view that atharis are deviated?this is the precise word. Probably most of them. By far the vast majority in the Arab world do. This is reflected by, say, Mufti Abdur-Rahman ibn Yusuf, who called Ibn Taymiyyah a 'Crypto-anthropomorphist' in one of his lectures, Mufti ibn Adam al-Kawthari's lectures, and of course GF Haddad's tirades. As for the rest of Deoband, I cannot say, because there does not seem to be one unified opinion amongst them, as evinced by the stance of Mufti Usmani. We have many great ulema from ashari and athari schools of thought, ibn taimiyyah during teh attack of teh mongols, fought jihad and incited the peopel of sham to fight, he didnt waste time refuting them for disagreements, yet we are now in a worse position than the ummah of taht time, and we are being battered worse than we were by the mongols, so perhaps now isnt a good time for salafi deobandi polemics? Yes, that is true, there are many great ulema from the Ash'aris, like al-Izz bin Abdus-Salam and his likes. The point of my post was to ensure that everyone was aware that the trait amr123 objects to is not exclusive to one group of people. Now that such a job is done, I am done myself.
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