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**ricochettty** · 06-11-2012, 02:16 PM

I agree with the bolded part, but hazrat don't issue statements like 'In the fitnah filled modern times it is obligatory to have a Shaikh.'

Yes we are a generation of people who say 'its just a sunnah' contrary to how the Sahaba treated the sunnah. But one cannot present it as a different matter just to catch attention. Mustahab is Mustahab and Fardh is Fardh.

It is slightly more than eye catching Dr Sahab. You are so busy in getting connected with the Deen part of life that I am not getting much time from you in those departments where we are very advantageously located. I am again referring to the science and technology part. I assure you it is not that difficult, particularly taking the fact into account that we are responsible only up to our abilities and capabilities.

Let me try to draw your attention to a very relevant detail but first some background.
A boy younger to me died. It was a decent family. His mother went into a state which you can tell us better technically but in common language she just refused to believe that he is dead. Her elder son tried to make her cry - she did not. People tried to talk to her about the deceased son but she said do not talk so loud Ashok is sleeping. She completely blocked out the reality, the inconvenient reality. This was an old incident.
A few years ago husband of a neighbourhood girl died - in our locality itself. She was not crying and we were all tense about that. After some effort she did break down, by the Grace of Allah (SWT).

These are the things that hit us hard. These things have always been in life. But there are some new things that are happening. We adopt the same attitude towards them - the attitude of two women in above incidents. We try to put them away from our minds. I am no psychologist but I do feel that this reality must be integrated in some way into our worldview, our reality map, our individual as well as collective psyche. Incorporation is must while we resort to exclusion.

In earlier times we only had the calamities. In current times their density, number and frequency and intensity as well as probability has increased many fold. This is the reality we are refusing to incorporate in our experience, our mind set. West is already caving in under its onslaught but we are not immune either. The specter is already in our backyard - I mean India particularly for we have been aping the west a lot. I hope you understand what I mean but if you don't then please ask. I myself feel very pressured to talk about these things.

And you can get out of the knots only if you acknowledge that you are in knots. Recognition and acceptance of reality is the first step towards remedy.

I feel we are surrounded by such diverse demands from so many sides that we do need protection, extra protection from Allah (SWT). Tasawwuf is the solution.

Finally you can talk to the practitioners in psychiatry and tell us about the level of emotional distress and its trend in present times. I suppose even internet will have that. Only if I had the courage to search it.

06-11-2012, 02:16 PM	#18
ricochettty Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 521 Senior Member	I agree with the bolded part, but hazrat don't issue statements like 'In the fitnah filled modern times it is obligatory* to have a Shaikh.'* Yes we are a generation of people who say 'its just a sunnah' contrary to how the Sahaba treated the sunnah. But one cannot present it as a different matter just to catch attention. Mustahab is Mustahab and Fardh is Fardh. It is slightly more than eye catching Dr Sahab. You are so busy in getting connected with the Deen part of life that I am not getting much time from you in those departments where we are very advantageously located. I am again referring to the science and technology part. I assure you it is not that difficult, particularly taking the fact into account that we are responsible only up to our abilities and capabilities. Let me try to draw your attention to a very relevant detail but first some background. A boy younger to me died. It was a decent family. His mother went into a state which you can tell us better technically but in common language she just refused to believe that he is dead. Her elder son tried to make her cry - she did not. People tried to talk to her about the deceased son but she said do not talk so loud Ashok is sleeping. She completely blocked out the reality, the inconvenient reality. This was an old incident. A few years ago husband of a neighbourhood girl died - in our locality itself. She was not crying and we were all tense about that. After some effort she did break down, by the Grace of Allah (SWT). These are the things that hit us hard. These things have always been in life. But there are some new things that are happening. We adopt the same attitude towards them - the attitude of two women in above incidents. We try to put them away from our minds. I am no psychologist but I do feel that this reality must be integrated in some way into our worldview, our reality map, our individual as well as collective psyche. Incorporation is must while we resort to exclusion. In earlier times we only had the calamities. In current times their density, number and frequency and intensity as well as probability has increased many fold. This is the reality we are refusing to incorporate in our experience, our mind set. West is already caving in under its onslaught but we are not immune either. The specter is already in our backyard - I mean India particularly for we have been aping the west a lot. I hope you understand what I mean but if you don't then please ask. I myself feel very pressured to talk about these things. And you can get out of the knots only if you acknowledge that you are in knots. Recognition and acceptance of reality is the first step towards remedy. I feel we are surrounded by such diverse demands from so many sides that we do need protection, extra protection from Allah (SWT). Tasawwuf is the solution. Finally you can talk to the practitioners in psychiatry and tell us about the level of emotional distress and its trend in present times. I suppose even internet will have that. Only if I had the courage to search it.
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