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**sallythetolly** · 06-11-2012, 07:02 PM

Agreed.

Relationship with a Shaykh is beneficial for some people but its not “THE WAY” or “THE ONLY WAY” and those well versed in Tassawuff never claim this, they just say its “ONE OF THE EASIEST WAYS FOR MOST PEOPLE (in their opinion) ”.

Allah (SWT) has created all of us differently with different natures and we all react to different mechanisms differently. The point is to reform ourselves, realise our short comings act on the Sunnah and Deen and utilise whatever is of benefit to in the most effective manner.

Cyber (online time) and listening to talks (in cars or ipods or MP3) can NEVER replace physical company of the pious. And as long people find the time to spend time in the company of those whom Allah (SWT) has blessed with the opportunity to follow the Sunnah and make Mushwara with them (about their affairs) that’s fine; if a person doesn't have oppurtunity for physical company then online is a fallback method but not the first and primary method.

Yes thats my point it is one of the ways. Those who benefit so get benefited.
When I came in touch with few tableeghi sisters few weeks before, I came to know they do not know much about sheikh thing and there are many who do not but for them tableegh helps them to bring closer to Allah SWT. I am just fine with it as Allah SWT by His wisdom shows people a different way to bring them close to Allah SWT.

Coming to the point, hearing bayans over internet may not replace physical company, this I cannot comment bcos I am unable to compare as I prefer staying inside home and prefer listening to speeches from here and I see it as a blessing that Allah SWT eased the way. And Alhamdulillah I have got benefited and I have experienced a very positive effect bi-idnillah. It is again one of the ways that ALlah SWT shows to His slaves. I dont think one can disregard this. Allah SWT knows our heart and when we earnestly seek for guidance, even the bayans heard over internet can benefit us. I have felt many times as the issues discussed in the bayans is like talking to me. This was not just felt by me but it seems many have experienced the same and this was once mentioned by the Sheikh in his bayan and he told to the effect that this is the barakah that ALlah SWT puts in the bayans of shuyook as He SWT knows what is in the heart of the listeners and so He SWT brings the cure through the words of the shuyook. So I dont completely agree that listening bayans through internet is not that uselful. As long as Allah SWT grants one fikr of islah and helps them to act on the advise of the shuyook, it is indeed blessed even if they are to hear the bayans over internet or anything. Allahu alam

06-11-2012, 07:02 PM	#22
sallythetolly Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 421 Senior Member	Agreed. Relationship with a Shaykh is beneficial for some people but its not “THE WAY” or “THE ONLY WAY” and those well versed in Tassawuff never claim this, they just say its “ONE OF THE EASIEST WAYS FOR MOST PEOPLE (in their opinion) ”. Allah (SWT) has created all of us differently with different natures and we all react to different mechanisms differently. The point is to reform ourselves, realise our short comings act on the Sunnah and Deen and utilise whatever is of benefit to in the most effective manner. Cyber (online time) and listening to talks (in cars or ipods or MP3) can NEVER replace physical company of the pious. And as long people find the time to spend time in the company of those whom Allah (SWT) has blessed with the opportunity to follow the Sunnah and make Mushwara with them (about their affairs) that’s fine; if a person doesn't have oppurtunity for physical company then online is a fallback method but not the first and primary method. Yes thats my point it is one of the ways. Those who benefit so get benefited. When I came in touch with few tableeghi sisters few weeks before, I came to know they do not know much about sheikh thing and there are many who do not but for them tableegh helps them to bring closer to Allah SWT. I am just fine with it as Allah SWT by His wisdom shows people a different way to bring them close to Allah SWT. Coming to the point, hearing bayans over internet may not replace physical company, this I cannot comment bcos I am unable to compare as I prefer staying inside home and prefer listening to speeches from here and I see it as a blessing that Allah SWT eased the way. And Alhamdulillah I have got benefited and I have experienced a very positive effect bi-idnillah. It is again one of the ways that ALlah SWT shows to His slaves. I dont think one can disregard this. Allah SWT knows our heart and when we earnestly seek for guidance, even the bayans heard over internet can benefit us. I have felt many times as the issues discussed in the bayans is like talking to me. This was not just felt by me but it seems many have experienced the same and this was once mentioned by the Sheikh in his bayan and he told to the effect that this is the barakah that ALlah SWT puts in the bayans of shuyook as He SWT knows what is in the heart of the listeners and so He SWT brings the cure through the words of the shuyook. So I dont completely agree that listening bayans through internet is not that uselful. As long as Allah SWT grants one fikr of islah and helps them to act on the advise of the shuyook, it is indeed blessed even if they are to hear the bayans over internet or anything. Allahu alam
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