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**Unhappu** · 06-13-2012, 11:21 AM

Salaam aleikom dear brothes and sisters,
I mean aren't we living now already in the 15th century, or am i mistake,

Yes. If you were to understand it as "in the beginning (or before the half way point) of the 15th century", then it might make more since.

according to the above narrations and info it could be like the Mahdi and isa (peace be upno them) are here like over 10 years or 20, They have been.

something which would shock me, i never expected this. It shouldn't. The coming of Isa and the Mahdi is fact. They are here now and waiting for there time to come on center stage.

Is the above info correct, and are narrations they use reliable. I want to know. What do scholars say about the expected time of the arrival of the Mahdi It might be. However, IMO the info is close, but not totally correct. I don't know about the narrations myself. However, have you heard about the "Prophecy of the Popes"?

"Attributed to Saint Malachy, is a list of 112 short phrases in Latin. They purport to describe each of the Roman Catholic popes (along with a few anti-popes), beginning with Pope Celestine II (elected in 1143) and concluding with the successor of current pope Benedict XVI, a pope described in the prophecy as "Peter the Roman", whose pontificate will end in the destruction of the city of Rome."

So the next Pope is the 112th.

Pope Benedict's health is failing quite quickly I may add.

Imam Ahmad narrated that Abdullah Bin Amr Bin Al-Aas said, "While we were around the Messenger of Allah) writing (the Hadith) the Messenger of Allah (p.b.u.h.) was asked/ 'Which of these two cities will be conquered first, Constantinople or Romiyah (Rome)?' He said, 'The city of Heracles will first be conquered.' He meant Constantinople.'' (Al-Hakim, Al-Mustadrak, vol. 4, p. 508. Also, see As-Silsilah as-Sahihah, vol. 1)

First Constantinople then Rome.

And the plane of the Milky Way to the center of the sun alignment coming on the winter solstice this year. Experts are saying that December 1433 AH (2012) - to - October 1436 AH (2015) we will experience an increase of solar and cosmic activity especially coming from the center of the Milky Way from the alignment. They say there will be 4 blood (red) moons on the Jewish Feasts of Passover and Tabernacles.

Blood moons falling on Feast days:

First day of Passover April 15, 2014 (1435 AH)
First day of Tabernacles October 8, 2014 (1435 AH)
First day of Passover April 4, 2015 (1436 AH)
First day of Tabernacles September 28, 2015 (1436 AH)

Red (blood) moons are always a bad sign for Israel.

I've been studying Bible prophecy for well over 10 years, and lately have been studying Islamic prophecy.

My personal studies have lead me to some interesting conclusions. You be the judge:

The 10th Jubilee Mystery
According to the Bible, 1 Jubilee year = 50 years (Leviticus 25:9-13)

(1517 starts the 10 Jubilees).

1517 - 1917 Ottoman Turkish Empire controls Palestine

1.) 1567 - Ottoman Turkish Empire control of Palestine.

2.) 1617 - Ottoman Turkish Empire control of Palestine.

3.) 1667 - Ottoman Turkish Empire control of Palestine.

4.) 1717 - Ottoman Turkish Empire control of Palestine.

5.) 1767 - Ottoman Turkish Empire control of Palestine.

6.) 1817 - Ottoman Turkish Empire control of Palestine.

7.) 1867 - Ottoman Turkish Empire control of Palestine.

8.) 1917 - British Mandate over Palestine 1917 - 1948.

9.) 1967 - On June 5, 1967 Israel began their six day war, (The War of Liberation - 1967) which resulted in them gaining control of the Western Wailing Wall of the Temple Mount.

10.) 2017 (1438 AH)

The following study is based on the chronology of Edwin R. Thiele in his book: "The Mysterious Numbers of the Hebrew Kings", which is considered by many scholars to have established the date of the division of the Israelite kingdom in 931 B.C. after Solomon reigned for 40 years.

Most conservative Bible scholars agree that Solomon began to build the Temple in 966 - 967 B.C. in his fourth year as king of Israel. (1 Kings 6:1) So he became king in 970 - 971 B.C. Forty years earlier his father David became king in 1010 - 1011 B.C. (2 Samuel 5:4-5) and forty years earlier, Saul became Israel's first king in 1050 - 1051 B.C. (Acts 13:21)

(967 B.C. - 480 years = 1447 B.C.)

According to Flavius Josephus - "Antiquities of the Jews" (Book 6 - 13:5), it says that the prophet Samuel "governed and presided over the people... 18 years together with Saul the king."

So the last act of Samuel being a judge over Israel was in 1033 B.C.

(1051 B.C. + 18 years = 1033 B.C.)

In (Acts 13:20) Scripture records that 450 years earlier, God gave Israel judges. Moses is no doubt the first judge of Israel. And his first act as judge was delivering his brethren out of the hands of the Egyptian slave master. (Exodus 2:14)

That would put Moses' first act as judge at 1483 B.C.

(1033 B.C. - 450 years = 1483 B.C.)

In (Daniel 9:24-26) the 70 weeks could also possibly be understood as
70 groups of Jubilee years (70 X 50 = 3500 years)

(1483 B.C. + 3500 years) = 2017 (1438 AH)

Also, on December 10, 2008 (1429 AH), which is my birthday, Prince Charles announced to the world that in 100 months, if we do not change our behavior in the area of climate change, we would experience catastrophic events that would forever change the way in which we live. So that would be April 10th of 2017 (1438 AH), (which is the Jewish Feast of Passover) and is currently doing a monthly countdown to this time. However, Charles has moved about 3 months from his initial doomsday dilemma diagnosis to July 2017 (1438 AH)

Prince Charles is a prominent environmentalist and his book "Harmony" is about, "the lost balance between Man and Nature and to follow a more philosophical path which reconnects humankind with ancient wisdom and intuition." It will bring together the various strands of his belief in a need for caution and conservation, with climate change as its focal point. Charles also struggles greatly for the cause of Islam.

In June 2010, Charles addressed his Patron Muslim university (The Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies):

"Islam is very clear... the important principle we must keep in mind is that there are limits to the abundance of Nature... Muslims are commanded not to transgress them... the wisdom and learning offered by a sacred tradition like Islam matters... The Islamic world is the custodian of one of the greatest treasuries of accumulated wisdom and spiritual knowledge available to humanity. It is both Islam's noble heritage and a priceless gift to the rest of the world. And yet, so often, that wisdom is now obscured by the dominant drive towards Western materialism... Its wisdom is discovered through practice and in action... the importance of conservation is much easier if it is transmitted by religious leaders whose reference is Qur'anic teaching... 'the best of all Mosques is Nature herself'".

One of the greatest Islamic scholar's of the past, Bediuzzaman Said Nursi exposites this matter:

"Isa will return to earth in bodily form in the End Times and will contend and repudiate anti-religious ideologies that represent materialist and naturalist philosophy".

Sounds like either way you go, Isa, the Mahdi, the Dajjal, the Sufyani and your Satan (Christian Jesus) will shortly arrive.

It is so great to be alive in this time when phophecy is being fulfilled before our very eyes.

(I hope I did the Gregorian calender to Islamic calendar conversions correctly).

06-13-2012, 11:21 AM	#28
Unhappu Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 553 Senior Member	Salaam aleikom dear brothes and sisters, I mean aren't we living now already in the 15th century, or am i mistake, Yes. If you were to understand it as "in the beginning (or before the half way point) of the 15th century", then it might make more since. according to the above narrations and info it could be like the Mahdi and isa (peace be upno them) are here like over 10 years or 20, They have been. something which would shock me, i never expected this. It shouldn't. The coming of Isa and the Mahdi is fact. They are here now and waiting for there time to come on center stage. Is the above info correct, and are narrations they use reliable. I want to know. What do scholars say about the expected time of the arrival of the Mahdi It might be. However, IMO the info is close, but not totally correct. I don't know about the narrations myself. However, have you heard about the "Prophecy of the Popes"? "Attributed to Saint Malachy, is a list of 112 short phrases in Latin. They purport to describe each of the Roman Catholic popes (along with a few anti-popes), beginning with Pope Celestine II (elected in 1143) and concluding with the successor of current pope Benedict XVI, a pope described in the prophecy as "Peter the Roman", whose pontificate will end in the destruction of the city of Rome." So the next Pope is the 112th. Pope Benedict's health is failing quite quickly I may add. Imam Ahmad narrated that Abdullah Bin Amr Bin Al-Aas said, "While we were around the Messenger of Allah) writing (the Hadith) the Messenger of Allah (p.b.u.h.) was asked/ 'Which of these two cities will be conquered first, Constantinople or Romiyah (Rome)?' He said, 'The city of Heracles will first be conquered.' He meant Constantinople.'' (Al-Hakim, Al-Mustadrak, vol. 4, p. 508. Also, see As-Silsilah as-Sahihah, vol. 1) First Constantinople then Rome. And the plane of the Milky Way to the center of the sun alignment coming on the winter solstice this year. Experts are saying that December 1433 AH (2012) - to - October 1436 AH (2015) we will experience an increase of solar and cosmic activity especially coming from the center of the Milky Way from the alignment. They say there will be 4 blood (red) moons on the Jewish Feasts of Passover and Tabernacles. Blood moons falling on Feast days: First day of Passover April 15, 2014 (1435 AH) First day of Tabernacles October 8, 2014 (1435 AH) First day of Passover April 4, 2015 (1436 AH) First day of Tabernacles September 28, 2015 (1436 AH) Red (blood) moons are always a bad sign for Israel. I've been studying Bible prophecy for well over 10 years, and lately have been studying Islamic prophecy. My personal studies have lead me to some interesting conclusions. You be the judge: The 10th Jubilee Mystery According to the Bible, 1 Jubilee year = 50 years (Leviticus 25:9-13) (1517 starts the 10 Jubilees). 1517 - 1917 Ottoman Turkish Empire controls Palestine 1.) 1567 - Ottoman Turkish Empire control of Palestine. 2.) 1617 - Ottoman Turkish Empire control of Palestine. 3.) 1667 - Ottoman Turkish Empire control of Palestine. 4.) 1717 - Ottoman Turkish Empire control of Palestine. 5.) 1767 - Ottoman Turkish Empire control of Palestine. 6.) 1817 - Ottoman Turkish Empire control of Palestine. 7.) 1867 - Ottoman Turkish Empire control of Palestine. 8.) 1917 - British Mandate over Palestine 1917 - 1948. 9.) 1967 - On June 5, 1967 Israel began their six day war, (The War of Liberation - 1967) which resulted in them gaining control of the Western Wailing Wall of the Temple Mount. 10.) 2017 (1438 AH) The following study is based on the chronology of Edwin R. Thiele in his book: "The Mysterious Numbers of the Hebrew Kings", which is considered by many scholars to have established the date of the division of the Israelite kingdom in 931 B.C. after Solomon reigned for 40 years. Most conservative Bible scholars agree that Solomon began to build the Temple in 966 - 967 B.C. in his fourth year as king of Israel. (1 Kings 6:1) So he became king in 970 - 971 B.C. Forty years earlier his father David became king in 1010 - 1011 B.C. (2 Samuel 5:4-5) and forty years earlier, Saul became Israel's first king in 1050 - 1051 B.C. (Acts 13:21) (967 B.C. - 480 years = 1447 B.C.) According to Flavius Josephus - "Antiquities of the Jews" (Book 6 - 13:5), it says that the prophet Samuel "governed and presided over the people... 18 years together with Saul the king." So the last act of Samuel being a judge over Israel was in 1033 B.C. (1051 B.C. + 18 years = 1033 B.C.) In (Acts 13:20) Scripture records that 450 years earlier, God gave Israel judges. Moses is no doubt the first judge of Israel. And his first act as judge was delivering his brethren out of the hands of the Egyptian slave master. (Exodus 2:14) That would put Moses' first act as judge at 1483 B.C. (1033 B.C. - 450 years = 1483 B.C.) In (Daniel 9:24-26) the 70 weeks could also possibly be understood as 70 groups of Jubilee years (70 X 50 = 3500 years) (1483 B.C. + 3500 years) = 2017 (1438 AH) Also, on December 10, 2008 (1429 AH), which is my birthday, Prince Charles announced to the world that in 100 months, if we do not change our behavior in the area of climate change, we would experience catastrophic events that would forever change the way in which we live. So that would be April 10th of 2017 (1438 AH), (which is the Jewish Feast of Passover) and is currently doing a monthly countdown to this time. However, Charles has moved about 3 months from his initial doomsday dilemma diagnosis to July 2017 (1438 AH) Prince Charles is a prominent environmentalist and his book "Harmony" is about, "the lost balance between Man and Nature and to follow a more philosophical path which reconnects humankind with ancient wisdom and intuition." It will bring together the various strands of his belief in a need for caution and conservation, with climate change as its focal point. Charles also struggles greatly for the cause of Islam. In June 2010, Charles addressed his Patron Muslim university (The Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies): "Islam is very clear... the important principle we must keep in mind is that there are limits to the abundance of Nature... Muslims are commanded not to transgress them... the wisdom and learning offered by a sacred tradition like Islam matters... The Islamic world is the custodian of one of the greatest treasuries of accumulated wisdom and spiritual knowledge available to humanity. It is both Islam's noble heritage and a priceless gift to the rest of the world. And yet, so often, that wisdom is now obscured by the dominant drive towards Western materialism... Its wisdom is discovered through practice and in action... the importance of conservation is much easier if it is transmitted by religious leaders whose reference is Qur'anic teaching... 'the best of all Mosques is Nature herself'". One of the greatest Islamic scholar's of the past, Bediuzzaman Said Nursi exposites this matter: "Isa will return to earth in bodily form in the End Times and will contend and repudiate anti-religious ideologies that represent materialist and naturalist philosophy". Sounds like either way you go, Isa, the Mahdi, the Dajjal, the Sufyani and your Satan (Christian Jesus) will shortly arrive. It is so great to be alive in this time when phophecy is being fulfilled before our very eyes. (I hope I did the Gregorian calender to Islamic calendar conversions correctly).
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