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If discussion and debate is little good for humanity than god help us...... Because of the lack of discussion between shia and sunnis is the direct result of believers being killed, slaughtered in pakistan, afghanistan, iraq etc.....

You missed Syria.
Regarding Pakistan we were very recently mourning, soberly, this martyrdom.
If discussion is a greek philosophy, i should remind you with regards to the event of Mubahahila or even prior to that, which was when our holy prophet was discussing various islamic topics to the christians. I follow the Islam taught by people like Hazrat Maulana Qasim Nanootwi Sahab (RA).
He did not debate with Muslims.
And if beloved Prophet (PBUH) allowed the Christians to express their beliefs it does not mean that he (PBUH) elevated them to his level by debating with them.

Or even the discussion of Imam Ali ibn Musa with jews, christians and other scholars from different madhabs in the famous debate in the palace of the caliph Mamooun. Islam was complete slightly earlier than that.
I cant seriously understand your logic on this I'll try once again.
Greeks thought you could reach truth just by intellectual exercise, mere reasoning.
Empiricism in particular, or science, is sufficient to prove that this was a faulty premise.
But we are talking about a different thing here - faith.
It is based on Wahy. Again debate or discussion will not add anything to it.
Of course discussion might lead to some clarification, what you call understanding but that has to be done in another thread.
When a genuine inquiry is posted on SF the official answer can not be mixed with Fiqh-e-Ja'afariya, the incomplete Fiqh and a Fiqh rendered undesirable because of its association with an ideology that is detrimental to mainstream Islam.

Please quote the hadith.... I render my apologies. May be some one else can do the search for you.
The value of knowledge being bad or good doesnt mean that a person will act on a bad knowledge, but means that one becomes informed of it and can even use this in his discussions with for example christians. To dismiss gaining knowledge on the pretext of a 'person' thinking its viewed as bad is ridiculous. My understanding of bad knowledge will differ from yours. If this is the view of everyone how can we progress in society or yet our spirtitual self, as everyone will dismiss what the other says as 'bad'. You have dumped your opinion brother. An opinion is amongst the worst things to carry.

You are inviting me to sunniism in a islamic forum while trying to convince us that discussing islamic thought is a greek philiopshy....

In other words convert without researching in to it?
That isnt very inviting.... You do have a point here akhi. Please do the required search. There is a thread here at SF about the beliefs of Twelver Shias. Go through it - there is enough search already compiled in that thread. I nearly puked on the first page. It might be difficult for you too but we are supposed to hold fast to the truth.
Real Islam is known to allah swt and its followers will be judged accordingly.... It might be seductive akhi - because of the slickness of the assertion you have made.
But remember it is we who are responsible for our actions in this life. You can not say on the Judgement Day to Allah (SWT) that Islam was with you so do not ask me whether I implemented it in my life or not.
As it was a fique question, i made it clear that my view was from the jafari fique.
Also i love how you casually in a way decribe my fique as misguidance, when infact sunni scholars have classed the fique as correct. Unfortunantley due to fitnah (astagfirullah) its harder to find more scholars being more open about this. This fiqh was not developed in its time completely - hence it can not provide the requisite guidance.
I have answered this according to the jafari fique. Nowhere did i try to misguide under the cloud thats a sunni view or hanafi view etc. I'll repeat it for nth time - this is not the place to serve that fiqh. Next there will be people who would like to guide people here according to Qadiani beliefs. Then Qur'anists. Jewish. The list will be endless.
But even if we have a finite number of opinions the Sunni Islamic ruling that the person is searching for will get drowned.
If you want to study the term 'created'. Please advise when the term Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamah was 'created' then? Was it before or after the term Shia of Muhammad (saw), or shia of Ibrahim (as), as mentioned in the quran? Trying to play smart akhi? Shias are not from Ahl-e-Sunnah wal Jam'aat and the buck stops there.
There have been earlier offers of unity but the perfidy is strange there. Unity for such people means that we Sunnis accept Shias as legitimate branch of Islam. Result: There will be branch A and branch B. This is not unity - that is division. And we are not responsible for the creation of that.
Eventhough i know why you dont complete the full sentence to a muslim brother, i can only follow the prophets sunnah and complete it myself.

Wa Aleikum Salaam. When I said Wa Alayk I discharged your rights.
Can not be chummier than that with you. History is such a painful thing - I shall not bring it in again.
But of course there have been examples of people overcoming the Shia doctrine - and I have already invited you to that.