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First my Dear Respected Brother,

I understand your gut reaction to jump to the defence of Shaykh (Maulana) Hakeemul-Ummat (RA) thinking that he is being disparaged or dishonoured, in addition, you can chose to use the “Report this Post (little triangle)” button for the Moderators/Administrators to take action; but I can assure you that there is no need.

Actually I was purely defending the statement without any regards to the individual who said it. So...

Women being Fitnah:

You have alluded to a Hadeeth which is as follows in full:

"The world is sweet and verdant, and Allah having put you in it in your turn watches how you act; so fear the world and fear women, for the first trial of the Bani Israel had to do with women" (Sahih Muslim)

There is no distinction between beautiful and not so beautiful women. There need not be such distinction. Its implied aand obvious. The hadith wwould have a vast meaning and specifiying it with "beauty" would have restricted it.

What is clear from the hadith is advise or recommendation or infact obligatory command to caution and fear with regards to women. So such cautionery behaviour becomes a sunnah. From context of hadith as well as reason, the beauty of women is one of the issues on which taking caution becomes sunnah.

General Populace vs Specific People:

There are no two sets of Shariahs revealed to Muslims and even if that was the case even then there is no commandment in Shariah that its Mustahab (or praiseworthy) to avoid beautiful women. Its not two sets of shariah but one shariah that applies differently to different categories of people. The people of caution such as the sufis would stay away from anything doubtful and anything that has a possibility of diverting his spiritual pursuit. Similarly, in laymen when something can lead to haram then the means to it can be blocked.

Reason being proof of Shariah?

I know your reasoning but I don't understand your implications?

Are you implying that every single one from amongst the Malfoozat of Shaykh (Maulana) Hakeemul-Ummat (RA) is governed by a solid reason, hence binding in Shariah on Muslims (from Karachi to New York)? No my point was that this issue was clear enough by reason itself. And in such case it is duty that he stay away from it. Our minds like our ears and eys would be questioned by Allah. So to know that something would lead to problems and yet not do anything would be irresponsible in matter of deen.



Note for everyone else before jumping in

I am neither extolling the virtues nor singing praises of beautiful women; simply stating that this particular advice CANNOT be applicable to all Muslims at all times under all circumstances. Allah (SWT) knows best why, how and to whom he actually said it to.

The command in Sunnah is NOT to disparage, disrespect any Muslim let alone someone of the caliber of

أخبرنا إبراهيم بن يعقوب قال حدثني أحمد بن إسحق قال حدثنا وهيب قال حدثنا منصور بن عبد الرحمن عن أمه عن عائشة قالت ذكر عند النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم هالك بسوء فقال لا تذكروا هلكاكم إلا بخير

Sayyida Aisha (RA) narrates that Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) stated, "Destroyed be with ones due to this sin so don't speak about your dead except good" [Sunan An-Nasa'i] And yes it agreed that this issue is not one of which someone is to be criticized heavily or forced upon but one of wisdom and precautionary advise especially when we see that such issues are bringing up corruption and problems in the community. And full imaan is when one hates to turn to disbelief, and such precautions are parts of such hate for disbelief.