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**cbUDaNFRu** · 03-02-2011, 04:40 AM

assalaamu alaikum W R W B,

my knowledge regarding this issue is very little. just posting because the OP seems to be genuinely interested in the issue.

on the issue of the independance of india and creation of pakistan as far as i know, Moulana Husain Ahmed Madani (RA) and Moulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi (RA) have had some significant differences of opinion. Moulana Madani's view was in support of a united India in which the muslims would work together with the hindus as a single nation. Moulana Thanvi (RA) on the other hand appears to have opposed the idea of working with the kuffar. Whether he actually supported the formation of Pakistan or not I do not know. It should be noted that though the views of these elders appear to be opposed to each other, they were sincere in their intentions. Their only aim was the welfare of Islam and the muslims of Hindustan. Some explanation regarding these differences can be found in Shaykhul Hadeeth Moulana Zakariyya (RA)'s book Al-I'tidaal.

A humble request to please correct me if I have made any mistakes. Also a request to all members to contribute positively, and to avoid harshness in our responses.

wassalaam

brother abdul_ahad, the first actual response to the OP out of about 10 posts.

Just to add to the above, there were major Ulama on both sides of this controversy. The likes of Allamah Shabbeer Ahmad Uthmani, Mufti Shafi Uthmani (as he states in the interview posted by bro Siraj), Sayyid Sulayman Nadwi and many others were with Hadrat Tahanwi

in supporting its creation (just to note Hadrat Tahanwi

passed away in 1941, befoer Pakistan was actually created; a lot changed between those years). As for those who opposed the idea of Pakistan, along with Hadrat Madani

there was Mufti Kifayatullah Dehlawi, (i think) Shah Ataullah Bukhari, Mawlana Syed Muhammad Mian and others. As for those who were completely neutral and disassociated from politics, the re was Shaykh Zakariyya Kandahlawi and Shah Abdul Qadir Raipuri.

In this interview, Mufti Rafi Uthmani (the son of Hadhrat Mufti Shafi

) talks about it a bit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bconV_rLWUQ (from a pro-partition view)

A very good book on the topic of those who opposed the creation of Pakistan is The Prisoners of Malta (http://kitaabun.com/shopping3/produc...roducts_id=856). It's actually biographical accounts of the political activities of Hadrat Shaykh al-Hind and Hadrat Madani (and is therfore from an anti-partition view)

03-02-2011, 04:40 AM	#13
cbUDaNFRu Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 451 Senior Member	assalaamu alaikum W R W B, my knowledge regarding this issue is very little. just posting because the OP seems to be genuinely interested in the issue. on the issue of the independance of india and creation of pakistan as far as i know, Moulana Husain Ahmed Madani (RA) and Moulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi (RA) have had some significant differences of opinion. Moulana Madani's view was in support of a united India in which the muslims would work together with the hindus as a single nation. Moulana Thanvi (RA) on the other hand appears to have opposed the idea of working with the kuffar. Whether he actually supported the formation of Pakistan or not I do not know. It should be noted that though the views of these elders appear to be opposed to each other, they were sincere in their intentions. Their only aim was the welfare of Islam and the muslims of Hindustan. Some explanation regarding these differences can be found in Shaykhul Hadeeth Moulana Zakariyya (RA)'s book Al-I'tidaal. A humble request to please correct me if I have made any mistakes. Also a request to all members to contribute positively, and to avoid harshness in our responses. wassalaam brother abdul_ahad, the first actual response to the OP out of about 10 posts. Just to add to the above, there were major Ulama on both sides of this controversy. The likes of Allamah Shabbeer Ahmad Uthmani, Mufti Shafi Uthmani (as he states in the interview posted by bro Siraj), Sayyid Sulayman Nadwi and many others were with Hadrat Tahanwi in supporting its creation (just to note Hadrat Tahanwi passed away in 1941, befoer Pakistan was actually created; a lot changed between those years). As for those who opposed the idea of Pakistan, along with Hadrat Madani there was Mufti Kifayatullah Dehlawi, (i think) Shah Ataullah Bukhari, Mawlana Syed Muhammad Mian and others. As for those who were completely neutral and disassociated from politics, the re was Shaykh Zakariyya Kandahlawi and Shah Abdul Qadir Raipuri. In this interview, Mufti Rafi Uthmani (the son of Hadhrat Mufti Shafi ) talks about it a bit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bconV_rLWUQ (from a pro-partition view) A very good book on the topic of those who opposed the creation of Pakistan is The Prisoners of Malta (http://kitaabun.com/shopping3/produc...roducts_id=856). It's actually biographical accounts of the political activities of Hadrat Shaykh al-Hind and Hadrat Madani (and is therfore from an anti-partition view)
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