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**Veronnisa** · 06-04-2012, 06:42 PM

AssalamuAlaikum,

Well, a year on from graduating from a system of education that has a tad too many "Maccaulay" touches to it, I have, Alhamdulillah, reflected for a long time on what was taught to us in the name of "Pakistan Studies" and "History" throughout our classes. Naturally, history is tainted with the perspective of the teller - But the only version of history that is worth acknowledging is that which is narrated on the solid bases of the Shariah (See Islam and The World by Maulana Abul Hassan Ali Nadvi).

The Deoband Scholars did not, as a whole, take an active role in the Pakistan movement. It was in the end, as the brother says, when they realized that the new state was about to form, that they stepped in to make sure, Islam did play some role in the supposed slogan of "Pakistan Ka Matlab Kiya - La Ilaha Illallah". 65 years on, I, for one, have grown very opposed to the idea to begin with. I personally think, in my worthless opinion, that the Britishers played their last card with Jinnah - mixed nationalism and Islam - and the poor masses got duped. I know Maulana Maududi Marhoom is heavily derided on this forum, and indeed any Muslim who errs should indeed be corrected and the people warned of his deviation - however, it is also unbecoming of a Muslim not to give credit where it's due.

Set aside all patriotic notions and read what Maulana Sahib said before the creation of Pakistan:

” Who are the Muslims you are claiming to be a separate nation? Here, the crowd called Muslims is full of all sorts of rabble. There are as many types of characters in this as in any (other) heathen people”. (Vol. III, P.166)

“If you survey this so-called Muslim society, you will come across multifarious types of Muslims, of countless categories. This is a zoo with a collection of crows, kites, vultures, partridges and thousands of other types of birds. Every one of them is a ‘sparrow’. (Ibid. P.31)

“Pity! From League’s Quaid-e-Azam down to the lower cadres, there is not a single person who has an Islamic outlook and thinking and whose perspective on matters is Islamic“. (Ibid. P.37)

“To pronounce these people fit for leading Muslims for the simple reason that they are experts of Western type politics and masters of Western organizational arts, and are deeply in love with their people, is a manifestation of an unislamic viewpoint and reflects ignorance of Islam”. (Ibid. P.70)

“Even with a microscopic study of their practical life, and their thinking, ideology, political behaviour and style of leadership, one can find not a trace of Islamic character.”

“In no Muslim League resolution, or in a speech by a responsible leader of the League it has it been made clear that their final goal is of establishing an Islamic system of government. Those who believe that by freeing Muslim majority areas rule of Hindu majority, an Islamic government will be established here in a democratic set up, are wrong. In fact w“In no Muslim League resolution, or in a speech by a responsible leader of the League it has it been made clear that their final goal is of establishing an Islamic system of government. Those who believe that by freeing Muslim majority areas rule of Hindu majority, an Islamic government will be established here in a democratic set up, are wrong. In fact what will be achieved will be a heretical government by Muslims, indeed worse than that.” (Ibid. P.130-32) .” (Ibid. P.130-32)

To me - it seems that nationalism was raised in an Islamic flavour and the masses responded. Even now, in this Pakistan, Islam is basically restricted to the Mosques. The Quran and Sunnah have no legal role or value - they are not legal evidences in the courts or the parliament. The Trade Law, Legislative Law, Economic Law, Political Law, Educational Law and Foreign Policy are all dictated under the British Laws.

Nationalism is nullified by our basic precept of being a Muslim - The Aqeedah of Wala and Bara - anyway. May Allah (S.W.T) Grant us strength to uplift our spiritual selves and to DO something for this Ummah. Oh Allah! Accept this generation for the work of your Deen.

And Allah (S.W.T) Knows Best!

06-04-2012, 06:42 PM	#40
Veronnisa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 342 Senior Member	AssalamuAlaikum, Well, a year on from graduating from a system of education that has a tad too many "Maccaulay" touches to it, I have, Alhamdulillah, reflected for a long time on what was taught to us in the name of "Pakistan Studies" and "History" throughout our classes. Naturally, history is tainted with the perspective of the teller - But the only version of history that is worth acknowledging is that which is narrated on the solid bases of the Shariah (See Islam and The World by Maulana Abul Hassan Ali Nadvi). The Deoband Scholars did not, as a whole, take an active role in the Pakistan movement. It was in the end, as the brother says, when they realized that the new state was about to form, that they stepped in to make sure, Islam did play some role in the supposed slogan of "Pakistan Ka Matlab Kiya - La Ilaha Illallah". 65 years on, I, for one, have grown very opposed to the idea to begin with. I personally think, in my worthless opinion, that the Britishers played their last card with Jinnah - mixed nationalism and Islam - and the poor masses got duped. I know Maulana Maududi Marhoom is heavily derided on this forum, and indeed any Muslim who errs should indeed be corrected and the people warned of his deviation - however, it is also unbecoming of a Muslim not to give credit where it's due. Set aside all patriotic notions and read what Maulana Sahib said before the creation of Pakistan: ” Who are the Muslims you are claiming to be a separate nation? Here, the crowd called Muslims is full of all sorts of rabble. There are as many types of characters in this as in any (other) heathen people”. (Vol. III, P.166) “If you survey this so-called Muslim society, you will come across multifarious types of Muslims, of countless categories. This is a zoo with a collection of crows, kites, vultures, partridges and thousands of other types of birds. Every one of them is a ‘sparrow’. (Ibid. P.31) “Pity! From League’s Quaid-e-Azam down to the lower cadres, there is not a single person who has an Islamic outlook and thinking and whose perspective on matters is Islamic“. (Ibid. P.37) “To pronounce these people fit for leading Muslims for the simple reason that they are experts of Western type politics and masters of Western organizational arts, and are deeply in love with their people, is a manifestation of an unislamic viewpoint and reflects ignorance of Islam”. (Ibid. P.70) “Even with a microscopic study of their practical life, and their thinking, ideology, political behaviour and style of leadership, one can find not a trace of Islamic character.” “In no Muslim League resolution, or in a speech by a responsible leader of the League it has it been made clear that their final goal is of establishing an Islamic system of government. Those who believe that by freeing Muslim majority areas rule of Hindu majority, an Islamic government will be established here in a democratic set up, are wrong. In fact w“In no Muslim League resolution, or in a speech by a responsible leader of the League it has it been made clear that their final goal is of establishing an Islamic system of government. Those who believe that by freeing Muslim majority areas rule of Hindu majority, an Islamic government will be established here in a democratic set up, are wrong. In fact what will be achieved will be a heretical government by Muslims, indeed worse than that.” (Ibid. P.130-32) .” (Ibid. P.130-32) To me - it seems that nationalism was raised in an Islamic flavour and the masses responded. Even now, in this Pakistan, Islam is basically restricted to the Mosques. The Quran and Sunnah have no legal role or value - they are not legal evidences in the courts or the parliament. The Trade Law, Legislative Law, Economic Law, Political Law, Educational Law and Foreign Policy are all dictated under the British Laws. Nationalism is nullified by our basic precept of being a Muslim - The Aqeedah of Wala and Bara - anyway. May Allah (S.W.T) Grant us strength to uplift our spiritual selves and to DO something for this Ummah. Oh Allah! Accept this generation for the work of your Deen. And Allah (S.W.T) Knows Best!
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