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**HwoRas1** · 06-04-2012, 09:52 AM

wow, that is shocking. only the kalimah enters, by affirmation, and exits a person, by explicit stated unbelief and withdrawal, in and out of islam. we need to be very careful about takfir.

WRONG. Why did Abu Bakr (RA) fight those who did not believe zakaat to be obligatory and called them kuffar if what you said is true? These people were reading the kalimah too yet he fought them and killed them.

06-04-2012, 09:52 AM	#9
HwoRas1 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 441 Senior Member	wow, that is shocking. only the kalimah enters, by affirmation, and exits a person, by explicit stated unbelief and withdrawal, in and out of islam. we need to be very careful about takfir. WRONG. Why did Abu Bakr (RA) fight those who did not believe zakaat to be obligatory and called them kuffar if what you said is true? These people were reading the kalimah too yet he fought them and killed them.
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