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**Soypopetype** · 03-08-2008, 10:33 AM

So what does this mean? Should we believe the incident possibly occured even if their is no hadith? Should we quote the incident?

Seems like the Salafis are right to some extent sometimes, plenty of the things I grew up learning to be based on hadith or sunnah turn out not to be.

It isn't permissible to attribute something to Allah Ta'ala and/or Nabi

without proof of it.
We should not quote this narration, neither should we believe that it occured.

It isn't a Salafi thing, instead in every era there are Muhaqqiq Ulama (Ulama who are solid researchers) who bring to the attention of people such practices and beliefs that have no basis.

In the recent past, Ml. Anwar Shah Kashmiri was one such Muhaqqiq, followed by his student Allamah Binnori. They were the ones who brought this narration to the attention of the Ulama and mentioned that they were unable to find any basis for it.

Even today, there exist a number of Muhaqqiq Ulama, from amongst them our respected teacher, Ml. Fazlur Rahman Azmi, the Shaikh al-Hadith of Azadville Darul Ulum.

Instead of feeling down and despondent when being informed that such practices are not correct, we should feel reassured that our Ulama aren't just accepting everything being passed down to them, instead they are constantly scrutinising every practice and belief to ensure that we are following that which is completely correct.

03-08-2008, 10:33 AM	#8
Soypopetype Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 382 Senior Member	So what does this mean? Should we believe the incident possibly occured even if their is no hadith? Should we quote the incident? Seems like the Salafis are right to some extent sometimes, plenty of the things I grew up learning to be based on hadith or sunnah turn out not to be. It isn't permissible to attribute something to Allah Ta'ala and/or Nabi without proof of it. We should not quote this narration, neither should we believe that it occured. It isn't a Salafi thing, instead in every era there are Muhaqqiq Ulama (Ulama who are solid researchers) who bring to the attention of people such practices and beliefs that have no basis. In the recent past, Ml. Anwar Shah Kashmiri was one such Muhaqqiq, followed by his student Allamah Binnori. They were the ones who brought this narration to the attention of the Ulama and mentioned that they were unable to find any basis for it. Even today, there exist a number of Muhaqqiq Ulama, from amongst them our respected teacher, Ml. Fazlur Rahman Azmi, the Shaikh al-Hadith of Azadville Darul Ulum. Instead of feeling down and despondent when being informed that such practices are not correct, we should feel reassured that our Ulama aren't just accepting everything being passed down to them, instead they are constantly scrutinising every practice and belief to ensure that we are following that which is completely correct.
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