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**no02rSx2** · 05-27-2012, 05:27 PM

Brother I honestly can't remember a time where I have had negative thoughts like reverts?
Are we not supposed to worry about our own actions?
And most of the time the people who do say these things are the ones who are doing nothing for this religion.
I don't mean to be disrespectful, but reverts attitude stinks!!
In another thread I remember him calling someone a village idiot..
Everyone has their own opinions, but to act this way is only making us look arrogant & pathetic when we should be making a good example to the non believers..
Then revert you start threads about dawa?
Brother I think a reality check is in order..

Dawood did distress me initially by the OP.
Only later I realized that he was only letting out his frustration.
And that is what we should take it as - his frustration at the state of affairs.
And this means a lot.
There are about a thousand things about which yours truly feels worked up.
Unfortunately yours truly can not do much about most of them.
And in those lucky cases when yours truly can do some thing yours truly did not do do much.
Plain inaction. No higher or deep explanations.
In in those lucky cases where yours truly did manage to leave the couch the result were hardly fantastic.
If the truth be told then contribution of yours truly to the good that is there in this world is cipher, zilch, zero, null and nill.
I can not be one of those who'll be tough on Dawood (Revert2001) or any other brother making the same assertion that he has. He does have a point. For a sinner like yours truly this is contribution enough.

I'll take the opportunity to say a few words about Dawood's personal things. I had read a novel in which a man lost interest in his wife. This was a situation in which you could not blame either one of them. That is life. But there is more to it. The wife, out of hurt, became bitter. She told him that I'll reduce you to penury.
Being a lawyer she did precisely that - reduce him to penury. This is merely fiction but this is what yours truly remembered when Dawood told his story. His wife walked out on him when he needed her the most and has managed to turn his children against him. I do not think we can explore these things much further for these are personal matters but in my opinionated stand Dawood has paid a little price for being a Muslim. My hugs.

Coming back to the subject of the OP.

Yours truly is the sinner who has most recently talked about the Muslim scientific achievements in past. I seek your indulgence while I attempt to defend my actions.

It is a desire of yours truly that Muslims today be as versatile in the sciences of the present times as they have been in the past. In this contest they need motivation. This motivation is at its Nadir in the present time. To motivate people is a difficult thing. It is difficult even in the west - our present day model of success. You have a whole spectrum of people ranging from professionally trained psychologists to the imported spiritual leaders of semi-legitimate type. I suppose we Muslims too can do with a little bit of motivational boost - it is like charging of battery, the battery which is completely down for we have left science for about five hundred years. That is not a short duration.

Yours truly has been dabbling in these things for a long time and is still surprise by the things that we unearth about past Muslim science. My impression is that it will do a lot to boost the morale of our youngsters.

Only if they could be motivated. The relevant thread was created by brother Abdus Samad Clarke in 2007 and it has gathered precious 2600 views since then. So Dawood can feel the nausea on at the lack of assertion on our part in indulging in pursuit of science but not at the fact that I, or anybody else for that matter, bring up the topic of Muslim scientific achievements in the past.

I'll use this opportunity to add some remarks about my own personal preferences. The problems that are being discussed in the present thread are precisely the ones that incite the fancy of yours truly - how and why Muslims should take up science in a big way. Yours truly's participation in other topics is purely incidental. Unfortunately we do not have much focus on these things here ( so thanks Dawood for the thread) any theological hair splitting does manage to tickle people's imagination. All Praise is due to Allah (SWT). And in every condition.

05-27-2012, 05:27 PM	#22
no02rSx2 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 412 Senior Member	Brother I honestly can't remember a time where I have had negative thoughts like reverts? Are we not supposed to worry about our own actions? And most of the time the people who do say these things are the ones who are doing nothing for this religion. I don't mean to be disrespectful, but reverts attitude stinks!! In another thread I remember him calling someone a village idiot.. Everyone has their own opinions, but to act this way is only making us look arrogant & pathetic when we should be making a good example to the non believers.. Then revert you start threads about dawa? Brother I think a reality check is in order.. Dawood did distress me initially by the OP. Only later I realized that he was only letting out his frustration. And that is what we should take it as - his frustration at the state of affairs. And this means a lot. There are about a thousand things about which yours truly feels worked up. Unfortunately yours truly can not do much about most of them. And in those lucky cases when yours truly can do some thing yours truly did not do do much. Plain inaction. No higher or deep explanations. In in those lucky cases where yours truly did manage to leave the couch the result were hardly fantastic. If the truth be told then contribution of yours truly to the good that is there in this world is cipher, zilch, zero, null and nill. I can not be one of those who'll be tough on Dawood (Revert2001) or any other brother making the same assertion that he has. He does have a point. For a sinner like yours truly this is contribution enough. I'll take the opportunity to say a few words about Dawood's personal things. I had read a novel in which a man lost interest in his wife. This was a situation in which you could not blame either one of them. That is life. But there is more to it. The wife, out of hurt, became bitter. She told him that I'll reduce you to penury. Being a lawyer she did precisely that - reduce him to penury. This is merely fiction but this is what yours truly remembered when Dawood told his story. His wife walked out on him when he needed her the most and has managed to turn his children against him. I do not think we can explore these things much further for these are personal matters but in my opinionated stand Dawood has paid a little price for being a Muslim. My hugs. Coming back to the subject of the OP. Yours truly is the sinner who has most recently talked about the Muslim scientific achievements in past. I seek your indulgence while I attempt to defend my actions. It is a desire of yours truly that Muslims today be as versatile in the sciences of the present times as they have been in the past. In this contest they need motivation. This motivation is at its Nadir in the present time. To motivate people is a difficult thing. It is difficult even in the west - our present day model of success. You have a whole spectrum of people ranging from professionally trained psychologists to the imported spiritual leaders of semi-legitimate type. I suppose we Muslims too can do with a little bit of motivational boost - it is like charging of battery, the battery which is completely down for we have left science for about five hundred years. That is not a short duration. Yours truly has been dabbling in these things for a long time and is still surprise by the things that we unearth about past Muslim science. My impression is that it will do a lot to boost the morale of our youngsters. Only if they could be motivated. The relevant thread was created by brother Abdus Samad Clarke in 2007 and it has gathered precious 2600 views since then. So Dawood can feel the nausea on at the lack of assertion on our part in indulging in pursuit of science but not at the fact that I, or anybody else for that matter, bring up the topic of Muslim scientific achievements in the past. I'll use this opportunity to add some remarks about my own personal preferences. The problems that are being discussed in the present thread are precisely the ones that incite the fancy of yours truly - how and why Muslims should take up science in a big way. Yours truly's participation in other topics is purely incidental. Unfortunately we do not have much focus on these things here ( so thanks Dawood for the thread) any theological hair splitting does manage to tickle people's imagination. All Praise is due to Allah (SWT). And in every condition.
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