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Holding Debates with Ahl ul-Bid'ah

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Abu Muhammad Ibraheem al-Hanbali says:
July 12, 2010 at 11:02 am

Salamun ‘Alaykum

Wa alaykum al-hmmm

The Kulabiyyah are mentioned in Imaam Muwaafaq ud-Deen’s Lum’at ul-I’tiqaad as being one of the groups of bid’ah. The Imaam did not mention the Ash’ariyah as one of the groups of bid’ah. However it must be said here that other scholars of the Ahl us-Sunnah have deemed their founder Ibn Kullab to be from the Ahl us-Sunnah. This is a matter of dispute.

Ibn Kullab is said to have delved into speculative theology, and due to this, got into a few issues that displeased the early Hanbali scholars. I am going to side on the sideline when it comes to such condemnations and leave such condemnations to the scholars who know better.

Wahhabis want people to believe that the Ash’ariyyah are the Kullabiyyah. It is interesting to note however, that the Ash’ariyah were known to Ibn Qudaamah’s teacher as seen from from Shaykh ‘Abdul Qaadir al-Jilaani’s text al-Ghunyah in which he mentions the Ash’ariyyah in his on point on the istiwaa, but Imaam Ibn Qudaamah not once mentions the Ash’ariyyah as being a group of deviance.

Why I mention this is to show that the Kulabiyyah were known as the Kulabiyyah and the Ash’ariyyah were known as the Ash’ariyah in the teacher and student’s time, as Ibn Qudaamah was a student of the Shaykh.

According to the enemies of Ibn Kullab 240 AH, he is said to have denied the Sifaat ul-Fi’liyyah of Allah, whereas Imaam Abu Hasan al-Ash’ari, and those who call themselves Ash’aris actually confirm them. Therefore the Kullabiyyah cannot be the Ash’ariyah as Wahhabis would have us believe.

Also, the issue of Kalaam Nafsi, [which myself being Hanbali Athaari, do not support] was said to be an innovation introduced into the creed by Ibn Kullab 240AH, and upon this premise the Wahhabis accuse the Ash’ariyyah of being Kullabiyah, however Imaam Abu Hanifah 140AH held the doctrine of Kalaam Nafsi in his treatise on Sunni creed al-Fiqh al-Akbar. This fact flushes the Wahhabi claims straigh into the sewage.

Wahhabis posing as Hanbalis would like you to believe that the Kulabiyyah are the Ash’ariyah, or even are pretending to be Ash’aris. This is simply not true, therefore theres no link, no connection with the Ash’aris, and especially not the Imaam Abul Hasan al-Ash’ari.

All because Imaam Abul Hasan al Ash’ari quoted from Ibn Kullab now anad again does not proove nothing. Imaam Bukhaari also quoted from Ibn Kullab, but do the Wahhabis use the same judgement upon Imaam Bukhaari? Simply quoting Ibn Kullab is not enough evidence for them to accuse the Ash’ariyyah of being Kullabiyyah.

I hope this helped a little more than you expected
Wa as-Salaam
excuse any humor