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**romalama** · 05-27-2012, 05:43 PM

Just becuase you label yourselves hanbalis and selectively use some quotes don't necessitate your association with hanbalism.
The whole la mamadhabi movement emerged using Ibn Taymiyya and his students ideas where they subjected their modern day followers to be all mujthahids by themselves able to make independent judgements outside the four madhabs. So the hanbalism is just a innovation within the hanbali madhab restricted to certain controversial lone individuals and then selective picking. In other words, the la madhabis can claim hanbalism because la madhabism is allegedly permitted within these lone innovated so called hanbali ideas.

I have no idea what you just said, in any regard I follow the Madhab and don't necessarily always follow the opinion of the Saudi Scholars or Ibn Taymiyyah (although it would be deemed permissible), for example I still pray with my hands below my navel even though most are of the opine that it should be on the botton of the chest.

I have never selectively used some quotes, however I have selectively used PEOPLE of the madhab, mostly ibn Qudaama, so if he is not Hanbali than yes I am also not hanbali.

If you'd like I can choose to quote even more hard core hanbalis, the likes of which you would have no problem with calling Mujassim, but where would that get me?

As for aqeeda, then again the whole basis is based on Ibn taymiyyas ideas. Lets remove them from the hanbali picture and use the rest of the well known hanbalis to formulate the aqeeda of hanbalism. We will be in better agreement. And finally it is these so called hanbalis who are intolerant. How wahhabism and al saud alliance wiped out any opposition including their own hanbali traditionalists of Arabia is well known. So let these hanbalis first allow people of other madhabs to preach first before expecting some kindness I've never quoted Ibn Taymiyyah the entire time I'v been on SF, and only have defended him. Rather I've always quoted other non-controversial scholars of the Madhab.

In fact, I mainly rely on Ibn Qudaama to present the truth, and if not him, those who agree with him in the Madhab.

Thank you.

05-27-2012, 05:43 PM	#27
romalama Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 400 Senior Member	Just becuase you label yourselves hanbalis and selectively use some quotes don't necessitate your association with hanbalism. The whole la mamadhabi movement emerged using Ibn Taymiyya and his students ideas where they subjected their modern day followers to be all mujthahids by themselves able to make independent judgements outside the four madhabs. So the hanbalism is just a innovation within the hanbali madhab restricted to certain controversial lone individuals and then selective picking. In other words, the la madhabis can claim hanbalism because la madhabism is allegedly permitted within these lone innovated so called hanbali ideas. I have no idea what you just said, in any regard I follow the Madhab and don't necessarily always follow the opinion of the Saudi Scholars or Ibn Taymiyyah (although it would be deemed permissible), for example I still pray with my hands below my navel even though most are of the opine that it should be on the botton of the chest. I have never selectively used some quotes, however I have selectively used PEOPLE of the madhab, mostly ibn Qudaama, so if he is not Hanbali than yes I am also not hanbali. If you'd like I can choose to quote even more hard core hanbalis, the likes of which you would have no problem with calling Mujassim, but where would that get me? As for aqeeda, then again the whole basis is based on Ibn taymiyyas ideas. Lets remove them from the hanbali picture and use the rest of the well known hanbalis to formulate the aqeeda of hanbalism. We will be in better agreement. And finally it is these so called hanbalis who are intolerant. How wahhabism and al saud alliance wiped out any opposition including their own hanbali traditionalists of Arabia is well known. So let these hanbalis first allow people of other madhabs to preach first before expecting some kindness I've never quoted Ibn Taymiyyah the entire time I'v been on SF, and only have defended him. Rather I've always quoted other non-controversial scholars of the Madhab. In fact, I mainly rely on Ibn Qudaama to present the truth, and if not him, those who agree with him in the Madhab. Thank you.
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