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**hereiamguy** · 05-27-2012, 09:13 PM

The Salafis don't do Rafal yadain after the third Raka'at rather they do it after standing from the Tashahud of the second raka'at before beginning the third Raka'at. Here is the Sharah of Umdat al ahkaam of Imam Abdal Ghani al maqdasi al hanbali rahimahullah in which he has given the same opinion. Refer to page 31 here http://www.islamlecture.com/documents/salaat1.pdf

that is what i meant. standing up after second rakat.

i read in zad al mustaqni the opposite.
and in this sharah you mention the commentator (not the author) is quoting single ahadith to prove 'his' point.which is particular sign of salafi editing. and also note the 'author' states that standing up for third rakat should be accompanied by takbir. he does not mention raising of hands. on the contrary your commentator states at the bottom:
"NOTE
Not all these takbirrat were accompanied by raising the hands. The hands are only raised in
four places based on other authentic hadith. "
thats his added opinion.

other points of difference are:
- hanbali fiqh says that surah faitha recitation is not obligatory on muqtadi. in sirri prayers it is mustahab for the muqtadi tor recite while in jahri he must remain silent when imam is reciting.
- poitning of finger in tashahhud: hanbalis keep it pointed throughout ash'hadu...till they start durood. salafis keep pointing up and down in small jerks throughout the sitting in final rakah.

some rebuttals for those two please.

my point however remains the same: salafi usool was never accepted by the ummah. it is their usool which is the problem. they are intolerant because of that very usool. this usool provided deviancy in their aqeedah in fiqh.

05-27-2012, 09:13 PM	#37
hereiamguy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 537 Senior Member	The Salafis don't do Rafal yadain after the third Raka'at rather they do it after standing from the Tashahud of the second raka'at before beginning the third Raka'at. Here is the Sharah of Umdat al ahkaam of Imam Abdal Ghani al maqdasi al hanbali rahimahullah in which he has given the same opinion. Refer to page 31 here http://www.islamlecture.com/documents/salaat1.pdf that is what i meant. standing up after second rakat. i read in zad al mustaqni the opposite. and in this sharah you mention the commentator (not the author) is quoting single ahadith to prove 'his' point.which is particular sign of salafi editing. and also note the 'author' states that standing up for third rakat should be accompanied by takbir. he does not mention raising of hands. on the contrary your commentator states at the bottom: "NOTE Not all these takbirrat were accompanied by raising the hands. The hands are only raised in four places based on other authentic hadith. " thats his added opinion. other points of difference are: - hanbali fiqh says that surah faitha recitation is not obligatory on muqtadi. in sirri prayers it is mustahab for the muqtadi tor recite while in jahri he must remain silent when imam is reciting. - poitning of finger in tashahhud: hanbalis keep it pointed throughout ash'hadu...till they start durood. salafis keep pointing up and down in small jerks throughout the sitting in final rakah. some rebuttals for those two please. my point however remains the same: salafi usool was never accepted by the ummah. it is their usool which is the problem. they are intolerant because of that very usool. this usool provided deviancy in their aqeedah in fiqh.
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