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Salaaam my brethren,

The name of this Forum is " Bidah" and i see you are trying to justify your atance against Bidah Hasanah. Yes it is true the ulema are not united in this issuer but the majority of the ulema say Bidah are of two types one is Bidah e Hasanah and the other is Bidah e Qalila pardon my vocab ( bad bidah).

Imam Shafi'i r.a, Imam nawawi, Imam Jalaluddin suyuti, Shah Abdul aziz dehlwi r.a , ibn subki and many more agrred that bodah is bidah e hasanah and bidah e kalaa.

Our brother has quuoted a passage from Fatawa e Azizi but he forgets to mention other passages in Fatawa e aziziz where the Shah himself states about the two bidah. I haver read it myself.



Since late mufti Ibn Baaz considered the Mawlid-un-Nabi (صلی الللہ علیہ وسلم) as unislamic there was a war of words between the two scholars. In opposition and reply to Sheikh Ibz Baaz’s Fatwa, Al-Maliki produced a clear, decisive and well-supported argument in Arabic on the permissibility of Mawlid-un-Nabi. Al-Maliki, in his book "Holal Ihtefaal Bezikra-al Moulidin Nabawee al-Shareef" raised some very serious questions to Ibn Baaz. He questioned Ibn Baaz about his views on the innovations which are being practised "here" (in Masjid al-Haram) and which were never practised before, neither by the Prophet Muhammad, nor the Sahabah (his companions) and the Tabi‘un (second genearation) and Tabi‘ al-Tabi‘in (third generation) of Muslims (Salaf). The practices, which Al-Maliki mentioned were those such as:

1. The forming of a congregation to perform Tahajjud Salah (night prayer) behind an Imam.

2. The recitation of du'a after the Qur'an has been completed at the end of Ramadan in taraweeh prayer.

3. The gathering of people on the Laylat al-Qadr (27th of Ramadan) at Tahajjud where the Imam delivers a Khutbah (sermon).

4. The call of the muezzin by saying "Salaatul qiyaam athabakumullah."

5. Sending Durood (praise and salaams) upon the prophet during adhan (call for prayer). This was first introduced by Ali who taught it to people of his time. Ibn Jabir mentioned that in his book called "Tah'theeb Al-Aa'thar" so did Imam Tabari, Ibi Assem and Yaqoub bin Shaibah.


Look what i am saying is that you base your opinion on these ulema whereas they do the things which as per you is bidah.,

Haji Imdadullah Muhajir makki r.a was shaykh in tasawwuf of Ulema e deoband and also ashraf ali thanwi r.a. He used to celeberate mawlid and he even authored a book on it.

Jalaluddin suyuti also authroed a book on the permissiblity of mawlid and not only that a scholar whose knowledge was much more than the ulema of deoband and who was in the line of scholars such as Shah Waliyullah, Shah Abdul Aziz, Ibn hajar asqlani and ghazzali and these giants of Islam. His name was shaykh abdul haqq muhaddith dehlwi r.a even he wrote in the rewards and permissibilty of mawlid i ahve the book in which he wrote this.

Yes it is true Imam Rabbani Mujaddid alf thani r.a was against Bidah e hasanah but the masail which seem bidah for many were nto bidah for Mujaddid and for it it had a basis in Quran and Sunnah. In Maktubat e Imam rabbani he mentions the permissibility of Mawlid. Now what do you say of this.

Shah Abdul aziz Muhaddith dehlwi r.a writes in fatawa e azizi that on the day of ashura and before ashura there gather around 500-100 people in his madrasah and all recite Durood sharif and they do it until i ascend the pulpit and then i narrate the fazail e Imam Hussain r.a as per the sahih hadiths and then we narrate the waqiyah e karbala and then we narrate all the events and after wasrds we do khatme Quran sharif and Fatiha and then we eat the food on which the fatiha was done.

If you do not believe me i will give you the link.

Shah Waliyullah, Ibn hajar asqlani, Jalaluddin suyuti, they all celeberated Mawlid.