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**nicktender** · 05-03-2012, 04:44 AM

Loud zikr practices whose aim is ibadah is a bid'ah. The ruling of permissibility only comes into effect if the act is not regarded as an Ibadah, strict conditions are maintained to ensure no possibility of anyone misconstruing the act, and it is used only for a particular expediency.

Hadhrat Qaadhi Thanaawullah Paani Patti Hanafi (rahmatullahi alaih) said:

“It is possible that the Sufia Chistia (rahmatullahi alaihim) initiated Loud Zikr for those who were novices owing to some underlying wisdom, and that was to drive out shaitaan, to combat unwariness and forgetfulness, for the inspiration of the heart, to flare the flames of those in love (with Allaah Ta`ala) with suitable spiritual exercises, and notwithstanding all this a condition was made for the participants (in these exercises) to abstain from show and seeking of fame.” [Tafseer-e-Mazhari, page 409, vol.3]

05-03-2012, 04:44 AM	#34
nicktender Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 403 Senior Member	Loud zikr practices whose aim is ibadah is a bid'ah. The ruling of permissibility only comes into effect if the act is not regarded as an Ibadah, strict conditions are maintained to ensure no possibility of anyone misconstruing the act, and it is used only for a particular expediency. Hadhrat Qaadhi Thanaawullah Paani Patti Hanafi (rahmatullahi alaih) said: “It is possible that the Sufia Chistia (rahmatullahi alaihim) initiated Loud Zikr for those who were novices owing to some underlying wisdom, and that was to drive out shaitaan, to combat unwariness and forgetfulness, for the inspiration of the heart, to flare the flames of those in love (with Allaah Ta`ala) with suitable spiritual exercises, and notwithstanding all this a condition was made for the participants (in these exercises) to abstain from show and seeking of fame.” [Tafseer-e-Mazhari, page 409, vol.3]
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