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**JulieSmithdccd** · 05-24-2012, 03:46 PM

I did not attend this seminar, but I argue that one of the greatest flaws of many of these types of presentations is the limitation of knowledge of the participants as well as the presenters.
Some years ago, I organized and hosted a lecture on the economic system of Islam. I chose to have one of my teachers present. He was reluctant. He was highly educated in the matter, but he withheld from discussion on many issues because he considered them to be in conflict with the idea of an Islamic economic system. He also admitted that he did not have full knowledge of the Islamic knowledge on the matter.

Rather what seems to occur is people with limited knowledge but with an ideological agenda conducive to integrating Islam into capitalism, use their limited knowledge to project a pro-capitalist viewpoint through Islam.

This seminar asked if the Prophet was the greatest economist, and then answered no.

Except, the Prophet was a Messenger of Allah, which means he relayed an entire Deen with an economic system.
It was NOT merely a philosophy. There are numerous laws, definitions, concepts which form a system.

Since presenters use the english language to box, limit, and define Islam, then it is fair to say that it is WRONG to say that the Prophet brought merely a philosophy. And such false statements are used to suggest Islam integrates with capitalism.

Your teacher perhaps is not a Muslim. At the moment we are not really prepared to benefit from the expertize these people have. We got to do little bit of home work ourselves. My impression is that we do have enough number of Muslims who have expertize in economic, financial and business issues. Then we have our traditional Islamic scholars. Former have to get some training in Islam - even if they pray five times a day. This training should be about Islamic outlook about on economic, financial and business issues. This has to be provided by the latter - whatever little they have. Our job is to bring every bit of our knowledge and expertize under the supervision of Islam and this can be done only by those who are trained in modern economic, business and finance theories. Can we armchair-key board activists convince any number of modern experts to have a look at this? This is where internal Dawah comes in. There are people who are calling Muslims to the Mosque - Tablighi Jama-at. Where are the people who are calling scientists, economists, financial experts, psychologists to give a thought to the fact that because of their religion they are obliged to submit even their expertize to the will of Allah (SWT)?

05-24-2012, 03:46 PM	#13
JulieSmithdccd Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 592 Senior Member	I did not attend this seminar, but I argue that one of the greatest flaws of many of these types of presentations is the limitation of knowledge of the participants as well as the presenters. Some years ago, I organized and hosted a lecture on the economic system of Islam. I chose to have one of my teachers present. He was reluctant. He was highly educated in the matter, but he withheld from discussion on many issues because he considered them to be in conflict with the idea of an Islamic economic system. He also admitted that he did not have full knowledge of the Islamic knowledge on the matter. Rather what seems to occur is people with limited knowledge but with an ideological agenda conducive to integrating Islam into capitalism, use their limited knowledge to project a pro-capitalist viewpoint through Islam. This seminar asked if the Prophet was the greatest economist, and then answered no. Except, the Prophet was a Messenger of Allah, which means he relayed an entire Deen with an economic system. It was NOT merely a philosophy. There are numerous laws, definitions, concepts which form a system. Since presenters use the english language to box, limit, and define Islam, then it is fair to say that it is WRONG to say that the Prophet brought merely a philosophy. And such false statements are used to suggest Islam integrates with capitalism. Your teacher perhaps is not a Muslim. At the moment we are not really prepared to benefit from the expertize these people have. We got to do little bit of home work ourselves. My impression is that we do have enough number of Muslims who have expertize in economic, financial and business issues. Then we have our traditional Islamic scholars. Former have to get some training in Islam - even if they pray five times a day. This training should be about Islamic outlook about on economic, financial and business issues. This has to be provided by the latter - whatever little they have. Our job is to bring every bit of our knowledge and expertize under the supervision of Islam and this can be done only by those who are trained in modern economic, business and finance theories. Can we armchair-key board activists convince any number of modern experts to have a look at this? This is where internal Dawah comes in. There are people who are calling Muslims to the Mosque - Tablighi Jama-at. Where are the people who are calling scientists, economists, financial experts, psychologists to give a thought to the fact that because of their religion they are obliged to submit even their expertize to the will of Allah (SWT)?
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