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**Manteiv** · 04-14-2012, 09:06 PM

Then they're kuffar if they did that. It is an issue of deen.

http://www.islamibayanaat.com/MQ/Eng...ge-174-229.pdf < read the Tafsir of 5:51.

The reason they have supported in the past is because they were duped into it and also partly due to worry of other 'isms' gaining ground in the area. Not because they were against the deen per se. However, I do not believe these worries justified the kind of action they resorted to in allowing for Kuffar troops (tens/hundreds of thousands of them), tanks, airbases, heavy-weaponry of all sorts onto the ground - this comes with its own longterm probelms. Another peaceful route should have been progressed to save thousands, possibly millions (overall death from effects of war) of Muslims from such barbaric destruction.

The case of turning on the Taliban and Mujahideen in Afghanistan was nothing but pure fear of America by prominent Muslim nations. Hardly any credible evidence has been relayed that could stand in a court of law - just pictures of bearded men and hate-filled inuendo about how backwards they are. Most Notably Pakistan, Saudi and the Gulf Arabs turned on Afghanistan.

Its the decisions they are taking in the political sphere which are ruining Muslim nations, its people devastated and ruined through more violence, spilt-blood and more killing. Destroyed infrastructure, literally sending countries and peoples decades back in their development and opening-up age-old sectarian rifts by supporting one-side against another. We need to learn from this otherwise we are going to be in a dark age full of strife for a very long time.

It will be interesting to see if, in the years to come, we suddenly have a more active 'pro-democracy' movement in Baluchistan and other parts of Pakistan. The political elite could not care less but the military may not be too happy for the US to hang around for too long, lest it should stir-up another pro-democracy movement on ethnic lines. Allowing the US back on the ground could be scoring a massive own goal and actually work against Pakistan in the longterm.

Allahu A'lam

04-14-2012, 09:06 PM	#18
Manteiv Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 371 Senior Member	Then they're kuffar if they did that. It is an issue of deen. http://www.islamibayanaat.com/MQ/Eng...ge-174-229.pdf < read the Tafsir of 5:51. The reason they have supported in the past is because they were duped into it and also partly due to worry of other 'isms' gaining ground in the area. Not because they were against the deen per se. However, I do not believe these worries justified the kind of action they resorted to in allowing for Kuffar troops (tens/hundreds of thousands of them), tanks, airbases, heavy-weaponry of all sorts onto the ground - this comes with its own longterm probelms. Another peaceful route should have been progressed to save thousands, possibly millions (overall death from effects of war) of Muslims from such barbaric destruction. The case of turning on the Taliban and Mujahideen in Afghanistan was nothing but pure fear of America by prominent Muslim nations. Hardly any credible evidence has been relayed that could stand in a court of law - just pictures of bearded men and hate-filled inuendo about how backwards they are. Most Notably Pakistan, Saudi and the Gulf Arabs turned on Afghanistan. Its the decisions they are taking in the political sphere which are ruining Muslim nations, its people devastated and ruined through more violence, spilt-blood and more killing. Destroyed infrastructure, literally sending countries and peoples decades back in their development and opening-up age-old sectarian rifts by supporting one-side against another. We need to learn from this otherwise we are going to be in a dark age full of strife for a very long time. It will be interesting to see if, in the years to come, we suddenly have a more active 'pro-democracy' movement in Baluchistan and other parts of Pakistan. The political elite could not care less but the military may not be too happy for the US to hang around for too long, lest it should stir-up another pro-democracy movement on ethnic lines. Allowing the US back on the ground could be scoring a massive own goal and actually work against Pakistan in the longterm. Allahu A'lam
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