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**TheBest-Host** · 09-12-2007, 09:35 AM

I have heard that Muslims are forbidden to play with dice. Apparently there is a hadith of Sunan Abu Dawud where the Prophet SAWS says "He who plays with dice will be deemed as a person thrusting his hands in pig's blood." There is another hadith by Malik that says "He who plays with a dice has disobeyed Allah and His Messenger."

Is this condemning the use of dice in all contexts, or just in gambling. At the time of the Prophet SAWS board games didn't exist, so dice were just used for gambling. Is interpreting this hadith to condemn dice in board games being too legalistic?

However, an Islamic sotre that stocks the board game "Mecca to Medina", which uses a dice, states that Mufti Desai has said that dice are okay. However, IslamOnline.net states the following: "Imam Shafi`i and other Muslim scholars (the majority of them) have taken this hadith as evidence to condemn games using a dice."

Does this mean that playing Monopoly (which I love) is haram? What if a spinner is used to determine the random number instead, or what if an electronic die is used?

What do you do when two statements by two scholars contradict each other?

09-12-2007, 09:35 AM	#1
TheBest-Host Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 463 Senior Member	Islamic ruling on playing games with dice I have heard that Muslims are forbidden to play with dice. Apparently there is a hadith of Sunan Abu Dawud where the Prophet SAWS says "He who plays with dice will be deemed as a person thrusting his hands in pig's blood." There is another hadith by Malik that says "He who plays with a dice has disobeyed Allah and His Messenger." Is this condemning the use of dice in all contexts, or just in gambling. At the time of the Prophet SAWS board games didn't exist, so dice were just used for gambling. Is interpreting this hadith to condemn dice in board games being too legalistic? However, an Islamic sotre that stocks the board game "Mecca to Medina", which uses a dice, states that Mufti Desai has said that dice are okay. However, IslamOnline.net states the following: "Imam Shafi`i and other Muslim scholars (the majority of them) have taken this hadith as evidence to condemn games using a dice." Does this mean that playing Monopoly (which I love) is haram? What if a spinner is used to determine the random number instead, or what if an electronic die is used? What do you do when two statements by two scholars contradict each other?
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