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**E4qC1qQ5** · 09-12-2007, 10:01 AM

According to the Shafi'i school, dice are Haram. That includes Monopoly, and includes games where there is no gambling. It is not the result of being too legalistic. The Islamic law frequently distinguishes between the "reason" for a prohibition and the prohibition itself. In these cases, if the reason for the prohibition is not there, then the prohibited thing is not prohibited. If dice were such a case, then they would be always Haram.

As far as what to do when two scholars contradict, there is a process which must be completed. First, the only scholars who are qualified to issue judgments are mujtahids. So you must first ensure that the opinion you are considering is a legitimate opinion. Second, if the two contradicting opinions are both legitimate (ie. they come from the mujtahids), then an independent scholar who has reached the level of tarjeeH is qualified to examine those 2 opinions and the evidence supporting them, then issue his opinion regarding which judgment has stronger evidence. Third, if several scholars of tarjeeH have disagreed regarding which opinion is stronger, then a scholar who has reached the level of naql is qualified to determine which of the scholars of tarjeeH to follow on that particular issue.

The final decision is known as the Mu'tamad, the relied upon opinion of the school. We should strive to follow the mu'tamad. However, those who have studied fiqh extensively will frequently know what the other opinions are, and may even know which ones are strong enough to be followed (even though they are not the mu'tamad).

09-12-2007, 10:01 AM	#2
E4qC1qQ5 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 495 Senior Member	According to the Shafi'i school, dice are Haram. That includes Monopoly, and includes games where there is no gambling. It is not the result of being too legalistic. The Islamic law frequently distinguishes between the "reason" for a prohibition and the prohibition itself. In these cases, if the reason for the prohibition is not there, then the prohibited thing is not prohibited. If dice were such a case, then they would be always Haram. As far as what to do when two scholars contradict, there is a process which must be completed. First, the only scholars who are qualified to issue judgments are mujtahids. So you must first ensure that the opinion you are considering is a legitimate opinion. Second, if the two contradicting opinions are both legitimate (ie. they come from the mujtahids), then an independent scholar who has reached the level of tarjeeH is qualified to examine those 2 opinions and the evidence supporting them, then issue his opinion regarding which judgment has stronger evidence. Third, if several scholars of tarjeeH have disagreed regarding which opinion is stronger, then a scholar who has reached the level of naql is qualified to determine which of the scholars of tarjeeH to follow on that particular issue. The final decision is known as the Mu'tamad, the relied upon opinion of the school. We should strive to follow the mu'tamad. However, those who have studied fiqh extensively will frequently know what the other opinions are, and may even know which ones are strong enough to be followed (even though they are not the mu'tamad).
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