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**esanamaserrn** · 02-29-2012, 11:50 PM

I was born in Malaysia surrounded by mostly Malays who follow the Shafie method of praying. The problem Is both my parents r of Pakistani heritage. My mother(Allah bless her) of Pakistani heritage was also born I'm Malaysia. I have been taught prayers a little bit from everyone but not particularly frm my parents because we got separated when I was still little. I have been checking the videos on u tube and also from other sites and I am amazed at the difference of opinion. Now I am even more confused.

I only raise my hands for Takbir at the start before Sanaa (Subhanakallahumma......) I say Takbir during Ruku and prostration(Sujud) and in between my Sujud and standing up again for the second rakaat but I do not raise my hands anywhere except before my Sanaa. I only raise my hands again for Takbir in the third rakaat before Basmallah. Oh and I do fold my hands after Takbir

Can someone please tell me if I am doing it wrong. I have seen video instructions where by no Sanaa is been read. They go straight on to Al Fatihah. I don' t want to be punished for doing Bidaah

From your posting, it shows clearly that you've learnt your solat from different people. For example, if in Malaysia, after Takbirah al-Ihram (first takbeer), we would recite do'a iftitah, but you wrote you recite do'a istiftah. (Note: I am NOT saying that it is wrong. All I am saying is that it is different that what MALAYS in Malaysia were taught and practice). Maybe thats from your Pakistani influence.

Back to your question on raising hand in Salah, in Shafie raising of hands at the moments listed below (as per the hadith quoted by bro rqsnnt) is Sunnah Hai'at
1- Raising hands at takbirah al-ihram / takbirah al-ula ie before fatihah in 1st rakat
2- raising hands before going down to ruku'
3- raising hands when coming up after ruku' (ie at i'tidal)
4- raising hands when standing up from tahiyyat awwal (ie 3rd rak'at)

note: Sunnah Haiat is different than Sunnah Ab'aadh (which if ones do not perform it, need to do the "sujud sahwi")

Best would be if you can learn from a qualified alim of shafie in your area.

wallaahu a'lam.

02-29-2012, 11:50 PM	#22
esanamaserrn Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 475 Senior Member	I was born in Malaysia surrounded by mostly Malays who follow the Shafie method of praying. The problem Is both my parents r of Pakistani heritage. My mother(Allah bless her) of Pakistani heritage was also born I'm Malaysia. I have been taught prayers a little bit from everyone but not particularly frm my parents because we got separated when I was still little. I have been checking the videos on u tube and also from other sites and I am amazed at the difference of opinion. Now I am even more confused. I only raise my hands for Takbir at the start before Sanaa (Subhanakallahumma......) I say Takbir during Ruku and prostration(Sujud) and in between my Sujud and standing up again for the second rakaat but I do not raise my hands anywhere except before my Sanaa. I only raise my hands again for Takbir in the third rakaat before Basmallah. Oh and I do fold my hands after Takbir Can someone please tell me if I am doing it wrong. I have seen video instructions where by no Sanaa is been read. They go straight on to Al Fatihah. I don' t want to be punished for doing Bidaah From your posting, it shows clearly that you've learnt your solat from different people. For example, if in Malaysia, after Takbirah al-Ihram (first takbeer), we would recite do'a iftitah, but you wrote you recite do'a istiftah. (Note: I am NOT saying that it is wrong. All I am saying is that it is different that what MALAYS in Malaysia were taught and practice). Maybe thats from your Pakistani influence. Back to your question on raising hand in Salah, in Shafie raising of hands at the moments listed below (as per the hadith quoted by bro rqsnnt) is Sunnah Hai'at 1- Raising hands at takbirah al-ihram / takbirah al-ula ie before fatihah in 1st rakat 2- raising hands before going down to ruku' 3- raising hands when coming up after ruku' (ie at i'tidal) 4- raising hands when standing up from tahiyyat awwal (ie 3rd rak'at) note: Sunnah Haiat is different than Sunnah Ab'aadh (which if ones do not perform it, need to do the "sujud sahwi") Best would be if you can learn from a qualified alim of shafie in your area. wallaahu a'lam.
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