Thread
:
Saudi Arabia is not a muslim country
View Single Post
05-10-2012, 03:14 AM
#
17
elektikakass
Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
397
Senior Member
Sunni Student,
It doesn't matter about Hizb Tahrir or not. What matters is communicating and understanding a fellow Muslim brother.
It is outright hizbiya- haram sectarianism, partisanship- to simply dismiss someone or render him a pariah because you think he is from a certain group. And last I heard, HT are Muslim brothers, period. So what is this about if Caliph likes HT, or listens to them, etc.?
Subhanna Allah. Kufar and munafiqn are often treated better than our own brothers.
Brother Caliph,
You have confused some aspects of Shariah and in terms of addressing the state of affairs in Muslim countries.
There are different levels of recognizing lands. The original rule is Darul Islam (muhajroon according to the famous hadith) or darul harb.
Overtime, as the Islamic state failed to sustain or continue to advance jihad on harbi lands in particular, ulama began seeking exceptions by which to address various lands wherein there were never Muslims, who ruled by kufr, but were NOT at war. Hence, Darul kufr.
Today, as the Islamic state has been extinguished from this world, we are living in a era wherein 'exceptions' and mitigating circumstances have become the norm- the exception has become the rule. However, we still need to identify various lands.
Hukm Sharii recognizes that any land wherein the kharaji was paid belongs to the Muslim Ummah. This would mean Spain and its colonies in Africa, Gibraltar, all of north Africa and most of West Africa and East Africa, a majority of India, etc. would all belong to Muslims regardless of its current inhabitants. But we ahve have to back away from this in order to 'go along to get along' with the kufar global order.
Thus, we see countries wherein the majority of people are Muslim, wherein Islam has some history, is a Muslim country. In that sense, Saudi Arabia IS a Muslim country.
However, Saudi Arabia fails to meet the minimal Shariah requirements of being representative of Islam. It has connivingly buried its kufr laws within its "adminstrative decrees", such as embracing nationalism, restricting Muslim naturalization, implementing riba, etc. Thus, Saudi monarchy is a Muslim country, but is NOT an authentic Islamic state, authentic Islam meaning it represents the minimal Shariah standards.
As for a government being kufr, there CAN be a distinction between the ruler, and the system which he rules by. A ruler can claim to be and in all outward and personal sense, be a Muslim, but system which he has sworn to uphold, a system with a constitution and standard, is openly kufr. Secularism which rejects the Hudud, which rejects the Shariah as it applies in all aspects of life, IS kufr. Yes, it is possible to distinguish between a Muslim ruler an his kufr system.
It is largely a failure of scholarship- not an acceptance- that ulama have not been able to confront this disparity between a ruler and the governing system.
And Allah knows best.
Quote
elektikakass
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by elektikakass
All times are GMT +1. The time now is
11:58 PM
.