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**bestonline** · 04-16-2012, 08:31 AM

hmm..why wont our ullama support them then? i only listened half of the second vid, internet's too slow, can you please summarze the rest?

Starting from where Maulana Weliurrahman begins to speak, he basically says:

An Islamic state has to conditions- the application of Sharia and the necessity of the leader being a Muslim
Musharaff/Zardari, etc sold innocent Muslims to USA- they are not Muslims
They are party to the deaths of thousands of Muslims
All Islamic parties even in the Parliament believe that this political system is not Islamic
If it is not Islamic, then it must be kufr system (as it can only be one of the two)
There is no Sharia in Pakistan
The presence of riba is a war against Allah

and His Messenger

Islam is the law of Allah whereas democracy is the law of man
Democracy is against the Quran and scholars such as maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi have said that democracy is against Islam
America is trying to appeal to the mujahideen and ask them to join the democracies whereas the mujahideen only accept Sharia
Allah commands that fighting should happen until fitnah is removed and the deen is Allah's alone
Some brothers would request the mujahideen to change things through democracy but the mujahideen consider the system to be a system of kufr and kufr cannot be fought through a kufr system
The mujahideen want to destroy the democracy and then establish Salah, Zakah and enjoin the good and forbid the evil as the Quran commands
We want to follow the Sharia and make others follow it
The Qadi's will be Ulema
Mullah Umar is a good example of establishing the Sharia, etc
The Pakistani population has made a lot of sacrifices
The mujahideen appeal to the Muslims to not believe what the media tells them
They are not terrorists, they are sacrificing for the deen and history will show that
The Pak Army will be show to be traitors and the agents of foreigners
This is our aim- to bring an Islamic system in Pakistan and get rid of the democratic system that people have become frustrated with

With regards to why Ulema will not support them, I think most Ulema prefer not to speak on the topic at all.

04-16-2012, 08:31 AM	#40
bestonline Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 476 Senior Member	hmm..why wont our ullama support them then? i only listened half of the second vid, internet's too slow, can you please summarze the rest? Starting from where Maulana Weliurrahman begins to speak, he basically says: An Islamic state has to conditions- the application of Sharia and the necessity of the leader being a Muslim Musharaff/Zardari, etc sold innocent Muslims to USA- they are not Muslims They are party to the deaths of thousands of Muslims All Islamic parties even in the Parliament believe that this political system is not Islamic If it is not Islamic, then it must be kufr system (as it can only be one of the two) There is no Sharia in Pakistan The presence of riba is a war against Allah and His Messenger Islam is the law of Allah whereas democracy is the law of man Democracy is against the Quran and scholars such as maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi have said that democracy is against Islam America is trying to appeal to the mujahideen and ask them to join the democracies whereas the mujahideen only accept Sharia Allah commands that fighting should happen until fitnah is removed and the deen is Allah's alone Some brothers would request the mujahideen to change things through democracy but the mujahideen consider the system to be a system of kufr and kufr cannot be fought through a kufr system The mujahideen want to destroy the democracy and then establish Salah, Zakah and enjoin the good and forbid the evil as the Quran commands We want to follow the Sharia and make others follow it The Qadi's will be Ulema Mullah Umar is a good example of establishing the Sharia, etc The Pakistani population has made a lot of sacrifices The mujahideen appeal to the Muslims to not believe what the media tells them They are not terrorists, they are sacrificing for the deen and history will show that The Pak Army will be show to be traitors and the agents of foreigners This is our aim- to bring an Islamic system in Pakistan and get rid of the democratic system that people have become frustrated with With regards to why Ulema will not support them, I think most Ulema prefer not to speak on the topic at all.
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