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**xIuvyAuT** · 05-07-2012, 04:36 AM

Also a religion.

yes it is, but it is not required that newborn babies practice it to be in a state of submission to Allah (literally - Islam = submission/surrender to Allah, the forms are just the details not the essence of Islam) and therefore be called Muslims,

therefore whilst I would agree with you that they are not Muslims in the particular sense that refers to a person practicing the last version of the deen of Islam as revealed through Prophet Muhammad (saws) I would still see them as Muslims in the broader sense that they are in submission to Allah.

I think if you look into it you will find that scholars such as Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) make this distinction too. He explains in his writings that being born on the fitrah means that their hearts are pure and accept and prefer the truth which is Islam to the extent that if their inclinations were left without alteration they would accept nothing else other than being a Muslim and this is in his Majmu Fatawa, vol 4, p. 247.

05-07-2012, 04:36 AM	#39
xIuvyAuT Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	Also a religion. yes it is, but it is not required that newborn babies practice it to be in a state of submission to Allah (literally - Islam = submission/surrender to Allah, the forms are just the details not the essence of Islam) and therefore be called Muslims, therefore whilst I would agree with you that they are not Muslims in the particular sense that refers to a person practicing the last version of the deen of Islam as revealed through Prophet Muhammad (saws) I would still see them as Muslims in the broader sense that they are in submission to Allah. I think if you look into it you will find that scholars such as Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) make this distinction too. He explains in his writings that being born on the fitrah means that their hearts are pure and accept and prefer the truth which is Islam to the extent that if their inclinations were left without alteration they would accept nothing else other than being a Muslim and this is in his Majmu Fatawa, vol 4, p. 247.
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