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**Heacechig** · 05-13-2012, 06:19 AM

e. If the verses were re-revealed, then according to (a), the Qur'an was not complete in the Loh-e-Mahfuz OR the Qu'ran in Loh-e-Mafuz had both versions.

(in regards to bolded part) As we say in America, "you got it dude!".

It's not that it had both "versions", rather the original complete version of the Quran, which contained both the 'version' which would be revealed first of any ayats, and then also the 'abrogated' version of them, if there was any.

To continue on your example of the alphabet from A-Z in a box. Let's say you ask me for one letter, and I give it to you. However, I already know it advance that this letter is not going to serve your purpose, and that I'm going to have to change that letter to something else and give it back to you. So, I already have the new, changed letter prepared in the box to give to you once that happens. Now I give you the first letter, and just as I already knew, it doesn't serve your purpose, so I take out the other letter which I have already prepared in that same box for you, and give that to you instead. I already knew that the first letter would not serve your purpose, however I wanted to give it to you anyway so you could see and realize the same for yourself. I chose to not just give you the 2nd letter the first time, even though I had the choice to do that, because then you wouldn't understand the fact that the first letter really had no purpose for you, or that the second letter was really better for you. You would just be going by what I said and would have no experience in it for yourself. Insha'Allah that makes sense.

Of course no one knows the future but Allah , I just said what I said in the above example for the sake of the example and to help myself and everyone else understand, Insha'Allah.

It's really not that hard to understand. Allah knows everything; past, present, and future. If He revealed one thing in the Quran, but later on revealed something else expanding on this one thing or completely abolishing this one thing and replacing it with something else altogether, then He already knew that that was exactly what was going to happen. It was us, the humans, who it came to as a "new" thing, but Allah

already knew, in His infinite knowledge and wisdom.

Lastly, abrogation is present in the Quran and has been acknowledged and explained by many scholars. Here's a short article on the same:

http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/in...twaId&Id=84587

May Allah

forgive me if I said anything wrong. Allah knows best.

05-13-2012, 06:19 AM	#12
Heacechig Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 484 Senior Member	e. If the verses were re-revealed, then according to (a), the Qur'an was not complete in the Loh-e-Mahfuz OR the Qu'ran in Loh-e-Mafuz had both versions. (in regards to bolded part) As we say in America, "you got it dude!". It's not that it had both "versions", rather the original complete version of the Quran, which contained both the 'version' which would be revealed first of any ayats, and then also the 'abrogated' version of them, if there was any. To continue on your example of the alphabet from A-Z in a box. Let's say you ask me for one letter, and I give it to you. However, I already know it advance that this letter is not going to serve your purpose, and that I'm going to have to change that letter to something else and give it back to you. So, I already have the new, changed letter prepared in the box to give to you once that happens. Now I give you the first letter, and just as I already knew, it doesn't serve your purpose, so I take out the other letter which I have already prepared in that same box for you, and give that to you instead. I already knew that the first letter would not serve your purpose, however I wanted to give it to you anyway so you could see and realize the same for yourself. I chose to not just give you the 2nd letter the first time, even though I had the choice to do that, because then you wouldn't understand the fact that the first letter really had no purpose for you, or that the second letter was really better for you. You would just be going by what I said and would have no experience in it for yourself. Insha'Allah that makes sense. Of course no one knows the future but Allah , I just said what I said in the above example for the sake of the example and to help myself and everyone else understand, Insha'Allah. It's really not that hard to understand. Allah knows everything; past, present, and future. If He revealed one thing in the Quran, but later on revealed something else expanding on this one thing or completely abolishing this one thing and replacing it with something else altogether, then He already knew that that was exactly what was going to happen. It was us, the humans, who it came to as a "new" thing, but Allah already knew, in His infinite knowledge and wisdom. Lastly, abrogation is present in the Quran and has been acknowledged and explained by many scholars. Here's a short article on the same: http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/in...twaId&Id=84587 May Allah forgive me if I said anything wrong. Allah knows best.
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