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**leacturavar** · 05-03-2012, 08:47 PM

Yes, but this confusion regarding them comes from the Pak government and Army. The same people who attacked Laal Masjid and who helped the US find Bin Laden, and sold Muslims to the US and partake in drone attacks on people within their own borders, and allow NATO to use their air bases. Not like we can trust what such people say about TTP

I completely agree with you, and I don't have any sympathy for the na-Pak government or army, nor for Pakistani nationalism (I still remember what a brother said, on the line of "when it was the time of having an Islamic "revolution" in Afghanistan and Afghani people having to sacrifice and die for this, Pakistanis supported it and declared lawful; when it's the time of having an Islamic "revolution" in Pakistan, all of a sudden these sacrifices become haram and it's necessary to obey the government).

But, still, some very dear people to me expressed a different viewpoint on the basis of direct experiences with the TTP, and I can't obliterate their judgement on the basis of accusing them of "Pakistani nationalism", when I know that's not the case.

It should also be remembered that being against an open enemy doesn't automatically means the opposer is 100% right in everything he does or says.

I just think we need more clarity, and rest assured I'm not talking on the basis of Pakistani intelligence's propaganda (i.e. TTP being agents of India and zionists with the objective of destroying the "mythical" Pakistan".

05-03-2012, 08:47 PM	#17
leacturavar Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 488 Senior Member	Yes, but this confusion regarding them comes from the Pak government and Army. The same people who attacked Laal Masjid and who helped the US find Bin Laden, and sold Muslims to the US and partake in drone attacks on people within their own borders, and allow NATO to use their air bases. Not like we can trust what such people say about TTP I completely agree with you, and I don't have any sympathy for the na-Pak government or army, nor for Pakistani nationalism (I still remember what a brother said, on the line of "when it was the time of having an Islamic "revolution" in Afghanistan and Afghani people having to sacrifice and die for this, Pakistanis supported it and declared lawful; when it's the time of having an Islamic "revolution" in Pakistan, all of a sudden these sacrifices become haram and it's necessary to obey the government). But, still, some very dear people to me expressed a different viewpoint on the basis of direct experiences with the TTP, and I can't obliterate their judgement on the basis of accusing them of "Pakistani nationalism", when I know that's not the case. It should also be remembered that being against an open enemy doesn't automatically means the opposer is 100% right in everything he does or says. I just think we need more clarity, and rest assured I'm not talking on the basis of Pakistani intelligence's propaganda (i.e. TTP being agents of India and zionists with the objective of destroying the "mythical" Pakistan".
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