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**gymnAnemoe** · 05-04-2012, 10:32 PM

Yer well if you read the thread from the start, the OP describes a practice of some people and goes on to label it as shirk, possibly assuming it is done by ignorant laymen of India.

Then lo and behold it turns out that a widely recognised and accepted 'aalim from this ummah has recommended this practice - so does that not make him worse than the ignorant laymen? He is not only practicing it himself but inviting others to it.

So what do you do, add his name to your list of ahlul bida/shirk?

The Shari'ah is not judged by what the people do.
The people are judged by what the Shari'ah says.
It would take more than a scholar of the Khalaf to turn the religion of Islam on its head.
Anyone who offers this "prayer" and does not repent from it and read the Kalima again will rise on the day of Judgment with the Hanood (Hindoos) and the Majoos.
And the list of the Ahl al-Bida' is decided by the Qur'an and Sunna. We might decide to compromise on the basis of name and status but the line is not drawn by us. It is drawn by the Law-giver.

05-04-2012, 10:32 PM	#15
gymnAnemoe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 526 Senior Member	Yer well if you read the thread from the start, the OP describes a practice of some people and goes on to label it as shirk, possibly assuming it is done by ignorant laymen of India. Then lo and behold it turns out that a widely recognised and accepted 'aalim from this ummah has recommended this practice - so does that not make him worse than the ignorant laymen? He is not only practicing it himself but inviting others to it. So what do you do, add his name to your list of ahlul bida/shirk? The Shari'ah is not judged by what the people do. The people are judged by what the Shari'ah says. It would take more than a scholar of the Khalaf to turn the religion of Islam on its head. Anyone who offers this "prayer" and does not repent from it and read the Kalima again will rise on the day of Judgment with the Hanood (Hindoos) and the Majoos. And the list of the Ahl al-Bida' is decided by the Qur'an and Sunna. We might decide to compromise on the basis of name and status but the line is not drawn by us. It is drawn by the Law-giver.
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