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**Opislossy** · 04-29-2012, 11:58 PM

There is no objective morality without any reference to the transcendent. Good loses all meaning without reference to God. It becomes as in the west, where good just means 'what i like' and evil is 'what I don't like'.

The ulema have said actions are morally neutral, they only become good or bad with reference to Allah's commands.

You seem to be thinking that moral relativism is correct. It isn't. Plato spent a lot of effort refuting it, 2500 years ago.

The fact is, people do think x is right and y is wrong, but they are wrong to think that unless is accords with allah's commands. Simple.

That was my point, the question I posed was does objective morality even make sense without Allah? If it does not then is Allah a NEED for there to be objective morality. And if Allah is a need for objective morality then without Allah there cannot be objective morality. And if all there is, is subjective morality then what me and you think is wrong will change in 1000 years.

04-29-2012, 11:58 PM	#13
Opislossy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 399 Senior Member	There is no objective morality without any reference to the transcendent. Good loses all meaning without reference to God. It becomes as in the west, where good just means 'what i like' and evil is 'what I don't like'. The ulema have said actions are morally neutral, they only become good or bad with reference to Allah's commands. You seem to be thinking that moral relativism is correct. It isn't. Plato spent a lot of effort refuting it, 2500 years ago. The fact is, people do think x is right and y is wrong, but they are wrong to think that unless is accords with allah's commands. Simple. That was my point, the question I posed was does objective morality even make sense without Allah? If it does not then is Allah a NEED for there to be objective morality. And if Allah is a need for objective morality then without Allah there cannot be objective morality. And if all there is, is subjective morality then what me and you think is wrong will change in 1000 years.
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