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**Maypeevophy** · 04-30-2012, 08:55 AM

i quote the above but this is a general reply to most of the posts below not just to tis one,

I think some people are getting confused here, the western kuffar allow alcohol NOT because they say it is good rather its because they don't think it's wrong. However for those that know or live in the west, drinking and driving (drinking under influence in USA i think)is one of the biggest taboos. how do you think most of out Muslim brethren make their living in the west (taxi)? Also of issues of note that are looked down are alcoholics, binge drinking etc...

Also there are many amongst the Kuffar in India that strongly look down on drinking alcohol I.e. the stict Hindus.

For those that are saying morality comes from Quran/Islam etc....so where do the non-Muslims get their morality from? They probably haven't even heard one verse of the Quran let alone the whole of it.

They simple answer again is that, the one who made us, made us with a simple rule inside us. The one I stated below, all morality is based on that. Please read further on Konrad Lorenz and his goslings.

Also this topic on morality is distinct from the imposition of this onto other people, for example if I think that it is wrong for men to wear pink, I won't wear pink but can I or am I allowed to force my opinion on ALL the other men out there?

Salam

Saqqib

we do know that there were 313 Rasools sent down to humankind (plus with more or less about 124,000 Prophets). Morality has to start somewehere as it has to have something to be compared against as a benchmark. And with all the original messages lost except Islam, all the other morality now is no longer an absolute morality, rather they are a set of relative morality standard (after their modifications) if we compare them against Islam and Quran. And the western morality values are a set of this drifting relative morality standard, that's why we can see some flip-flopping in their values in a very short time span (50 years, for examples).

Allah Knows Best.

04-30-2012, 08:55 AM	#20
Maypeevophy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 337 Senior Member	i quote the above but this is a general reply to most of the posts below not just to tis one, I think some people are getting confused here, the western kuffar allow alcohol NOT because they say it is good rather its because they don't think it's wrong. However for those that know or live in the west, drinking and driving (drinking under influence in USA i think)is one of the biggest taboos. how do you think most of out Muslim brethren make their living in the west (taxi)? Also of issues of note that are looked down are alcoholics, binge drinking etc... Also there are many amongst the Kuffar in India that strongly look down on drinking alcohol I.e. the stict Hindus. For those that are saying morality comes from Quran/Islam etc....so where do the non-Muslims get their morality from? They probably haven't even heard one verse of the Quran let alone the whole of it. They simple answer again is that, the one who made us, made us with a simple rule inside us. The one I stated below, all morality is based on that. Please read further on Konrad Lorenz and his goslings. Also this topic on morality is distinct from the imposition of this onto other people, for example if I think that it is wrong for men to wear pink, I won't wear pink but can I or am I allowed to force my opinion on ALL the other men out there? Salam Saqqib we do know that there were 313 Rasools sent down to humankind (plus with more or less about 124,000 Prophets). Morality has to start somewehere as it has to have something to be compared against as a benchmark. And with all the original messages lost except Islam, all the other morality now is no longer an absolute morality, rather they are a set of relative morality standard (after their modifications) if we compare them against Islam and Quran. And the western morality values are a set of this drifting relative morality standard, that's why we can see some flip-flopping in their values in a very short time span (50 years, for examples). Allah Knows Best.
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