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**raspirator** · 04-28-2012, 01:30 AM

Assalamu alaykum

It is not the rulers alone who should change. Hajjaj said you be like Abu Dhar Gaffari I will be like Umar RA.

Aamaalalkum ummalakum.

Exactly correct. Changing rulers ALONE does not suffice.

Allah

saiys what means from 13:11:

Verily Allah does not change a people's condition unless they change their inner selves. And when Allah decides to make a people suffer punishment, no one can avert it. Nor can any be of help to such a people against Allah.
It is my concern that there is a confusion between what the Sunnat of Allah and what is within the realm of human conduct to determine.

Let us approach this matter based on the Original Rule of what Allah Commands, what means of the Holy Quran:

(5:48)Then We revealed the Book to you (O Muhammad!) with Truth, confirming whatever of the Book was revealed before, and protecting and guarding over it. Judge, then, in the affairs of men in accordance with the Law that Allah has revealed, and do not follow their desires in disregard of the Truth which has come to you. For each of you We have appointed a Law and a way of life. And had Allah so willed, He would surely have made you one single community; instead, (He gave each of you a Law and a way of of life) in order to test you by what He gave you. Vie, then, one with another in good works. Unto Allah is the return of all of you; and He will then make you understand the truth concerning the matters on which you disagreed.

(5:49) Therefore, judge between them (O Muhammad!) by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their desires, and beware lest they tempt you away from anything of what Allah has revealed to you. And if they turn away, then know well that Allah has indeed decided to afflict them for some of their sins. For surely many of them are transgressors.

(5:50) (If they turn away from the Law of Allah) do they desire judgement according to the Law of Ignorance? But for those who have certainty of belief whose judgement can be better than Allah's? We, the Ummah of Muhammad

, have been granted the Holy Quran and the Shariah by which we are commanded to judge and rule. And if we deviate from these, it is the Sunnat of Allah for us to suffer afflictions until we repent and return.

So the necessity is to motivate the people to return to the Book and the Sunnah, including in governance- ruling and judging- to gain Allah's Pleasure.

Part of that motivation is reviving the thoughts and sentiments about Islam so that the people change their thoughts and sentiments to be in accordance with and in favor of Islam.

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04-28-2012, 01:30 AM	#10
raspirator Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 419 Senior Member	Assalamu alaykum It is not the rulers alone who should change. Hajjaj said you be like Abu Dhar Gaffari I will be like Umar RA. Aamaalalkum ummalakum. Exactly correct. Changing rulers ALONE does not suffice. Allah saiys what means from 13:11: Verily Allah does not change a people's condition unless they change their inner selves. And when Allah decides to make a people suffer punishment, no one can avert it. Nor can any be of help to such a people against Allah. It is my concern that there is a confusion between what the Sunnat of Allah and what is within the realm of human conduct to determine. Let us approach this matter based on the Original Rule of what Allah Commands, what means of the Holy Quran: (5:48)Then We revealed the Book to you (O Muhammad!) with Truth, confirming whatever of the Book was revealed before, and protecting and guarding over it. Judge, then, in the affairs of men in accordance with the Law that Allah has revealed, and do not follow their desires in disregard of the Truth which has come to you. For each of you We have appointed a Law and a way of life. And had Allah so willed, He would surely have made you one single community; instead, (He gave each of you a Law and a way of of life) in order to test you by what He gave you. Vie, then, one with another in good works. Unto Allah is the return of all of you; and He will then make you understand the truth concerning the matters on which you disagreed. (5:49) Therefore, judge between them (O Muhammad!) by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their desires, and beware lest they tempt you away from anything of what Allah has revealed to you. And if they turn away, then know well that Allah has indeed decided to afflict them for some of their sins. For surely many of them are transgressors. (5:50) (If they turn away from the Law of Allah) do they desire judgement according to the Law of Ignorance? But for those who have certainty of belief whose judgement can be better than Allah's? We, the Ummah of Muhammad , have been granted the Holy Quran and the Shariah by which we are commanded to judge and rule. And if we deviate from these, it is the Sunnat of Allah for us to suffer afflictions until we repent and return. So the necessity is to motivate the people to return to the Book and the Sunnah, including in governance- ruling and judging- to gain Allah's Pleasure. Part of that motivation is reviving the thoughts and sentiments about Islam so that the people change their thoughts and sentiments to be in accordance with and in favor of Islam. [more later ]
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