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**UvjqTVVC** · 03-14-2007, 07:09 PM

Asslamo Allaikum,

I am going to ignore your mocking of the Sunnah of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) about Tableegh and leave you to the judgement of Allah (SWT).

Answers to your questions in order; although I am NOT a Tableeghi!

1) Haji Abdul-Wahhab (Ameer of Pakistan) was asked the question as to why the change is NOT coming in Pakistan when the work is going on; and his reply was as follows:

a) Our efforts are for the ummah and not just Pakistan...

b) If we were to shut shop and just concentrate on Pakistan; you will see a change

c) Personally I disagree with you that there is no change; do you not see all these Madaris and Masajid all the place...People coming to the Deen of Allah (SWT)...

The Deen which Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) brought was complete i.e. when it was time to do "Allah, Allah, Allah" it was done...but when it was time to kill Jews it was done...when it was time to dig a trench it was done..

We find that Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) participated in 27 battles and ordered 55 (including his personal 27)!

Islam is a complete religion....Allah (SWT) has produced great Sufees who covered all aspects of Islam from teaching to Dhik'r to Jihad and it is towards the complete Islam that Tableegh should be done

If you choose to follow Sufees who sat around and did Allah, Allah , Allah while the British colonised our lands, raped and killed our women and gave Fatwaas that the British are a benevolence of Allah in India and Jihad is Haram; then you are welcome to that brand of "Turn the other Cheek: Tassawwuff"

I prefer to follow the Sunnah of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) and get myself injured or even killed in defence of my belief while I am doing "Allah Allah Allah...."

I have noticed that you have not defended my allegations and simply mocked them as superficial!

Lastly I translate the couplet of Allama Iqbal (RA) for you in English:

O man of God! You don't have the courage to face the situation
Go, Sit in Cave and do Allah Allah Allah!

So in the height of tableegh..what has happened in pakistan.
has the khilafah come back????

I cant believe such simplistic logic

It baffles me how people can think like that.

The way forward is everyone should renounce the dunya.

Buy a tasbeeh

And say Allah Allah Allah Allah

Insha'allah

03-14-2007, 07:09 PM	#22
UvjqTVVC Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 437 Senior Member	Asslamo Allaikum, I am going to ignore your mocking of the Sunnah of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) about Tableegh and leave you to the judgement of Allah (SWT). Answers to your questions in order; although I am NOT a Tableeghi! 1) Haji Abdul-Wahhab (Ameer of Pakistan) was asked the question as to why the change is NOT coming in Pakistan when the work is going on; and his reply was as follows: a) Our efforts are for the ummah and not just Pakistan... b) If we were to shut shop and just concentrate on Pakistan; you will see a change c) Personally I disagree with you that there is no change; do you not see all these Madaris and Masajid all the place...People coming to the Deen of Allah (SWT)... The Deen which Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) brought was complete i.e. when it was time to do "Allah, Allah, Allah" it was done...but when it was time to kill Jews it was done...when it was time to dig a trench it was done.. We find that Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) participated in 27 battles and ordered 55 (including his personal 27)! Islam is a complete religion....Allah (SWT) has produced great Sufees who covered all aspects of Islam from teaching to Dhik'r to Jihad and it is towards the complete Islam that Tableegh should be done If you choose to follow Sufees who sat around and did Allah, Allah , Allah while the British colonised our lands, raped and killed our women and gave Fatwaas that the British are a benevolence of Allah in India and Jihad is Haram; then you are welcome to that brand of "Turn the other Cheek: Tassawwuff" I prefer to follow the Sunnah of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) and get myself injured or even killed in defence of my belief while I am doing "Allah Allah Allah...." I have noticed that you have not defended my allegations and simply mocked them as superficial! Lastly I translate the couplet of Allama Iqbal (RA) for you in English: O man of God! You don't have the courage to face the situation Go, Sit in Cave and do Allah Allah Allah! So in the height of tableegh..what has happened in pakistan. has the khilafah come back???? I cant believe such simplistic logic It baffles me how people can think like that. The way forward is everyone should renounce the dunya. Buy a tasbeeh And say Allah Allah Allah Allah Insha'allah
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