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**PyncGyncliacy** · 06-21-2009, 07:17 AM

Salaam,

Brother what do you consider a "non-biased" source? I had a close friend from Lebanon that was a Habashi and prayed in the wrong direction? Is that not sufficient enough? He would not even perform prayers in the congregation with the rest of the Muslims?

dear brother.

As far as I know there is some ikhtilaf about the direction of the prayer in countries like Usa: the Mauritanian Ulama (about whose rank no one will object) have the same opinion of South-East direction.
I don't have idea about their proof, but we cannot deny this is not just an "Habashi strangeness", but a position who is shared by other one also, and has some Fiqhi backing.

Brother, the scholars of alhus sunnah wa jamat has considered them as deviant. Inshallah others can shed some light.

Also see this: http://naqshbandi.org/topics/refute/aicp/default.htm

Brother, I repeat myself: I'm not here to "defend" the Habashies; personally I don't even agree with something of their approch, but from this to give harder judgements or spreading pseudo-salafi fatawa..

So, let's try being more cautious before expressing clear-cut statements backed only from some biased source (salafies that hate them for their (AICP) being Ash`ari-Shafi`i-Rifa`i Sufis and being very harsh against salafies, and Haqqanies for their (AICP) harsh denounce of Haqqani Shuyukh).

Again, there is a kind of "war" between Haqqanies and Habashies; try also reading what the latters say about the formers! ;-)

06-21-2009, 07:17 AM	#4
PyncGyncliacy Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 706 Senior Member	Salaam, Brother what do you consider a "non-biased" source? I had a close friend from Lebanon that was a Habashi and prayed in the wrong direction? Is that not sufficient enough? He would not even perform prayers in the congregation with the rest of the Muslims? dear brother. As far as I know there is some ikhtilaf about the direction of the prayer in countries like Usa: the Mauritanian Ulama (about whose rank no one will object) have the same opinion of South-East direction. I don't have idea about their proof, but we cannot deny this is not just an "Habashi strangeness", but a position who is shared by other one also, and has some Fiqhi backing. Brother, the scholars of alhus sunnah wa jamat has considered them as deviant. Inshallah others can shed some light. Also see this: http://naqshbandi.org/topics/refute/aicp/default.htm Brother, I repeat myself: I'm not here to "defend" the Habashies; personally I don't even agree with something of their approch, but from this to give harder judgements or spreading pseudo-salafi fatawa.. So, let's try being more cautious before expressing clear-cut statements backed only from some biased source (salafies that hate them for their (AICP) being Ash`ari-Shafi`i-Rifa`i Sufis and being very harsh against salafies, and Haqqanies for their (AICP) harsh denounce of Haqqani Shuyukh). Again, there is a kind of "war" between Haqqanies and Habashies; try also reading what the latters say about the formers! ;-)
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