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Old 02-15-2010, 06:19 PM   #25
brandiweb

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The reason I said I didn't accuse your Imam is because I don't have copies of his books and my understanding of your cult is from people like you who spoke of it. I knew of this and other statements, but unlike you, I didn't want to make an accusation on a man unless I knew I'd be able to support it. Walhamdulillah I was able to find the statement again and do more than simply bring the statements of your ilk to me but your own Imam.

Why did you not mention the preceding points? Have you failed to realise he is stating a hadith from Bukhari and the likes?! Are you saying that the great scholars of hadith are trying to take a shot at Mu'waiyyah?! Or is there another reason for it, but that your blinding hatred only makes you think this? Just because you are full of hatred, dont attribute it to others. Subhan'Allaah, i do not think you realise the consequences of your words! May Allaah guide you. Are you a complete duffer? Firstly, that hadith is from Muslim (rah) - I didn't comment on the one he quotes from Bukhari (rah) because I only know of something similar to that recorded by Bayhaqi (rah), and if he's refering to that one, than he's lying. Secondly, as I already clearly mentioned, Imaam Nawawi (rah) in his sharh mentions the interpretation for this hadith whereas your cult uses this, amongst other things, this which is a virtue of Mu'awiyah (ra), to attack him as a "Sinner Sahabi" outside of the Jamhoor ashab. I have no problem with the hadith genius, but with your cult and it's bid'ati concept of dividing the Sahaba (ra) into "good" Sahaba (ra) and "sinner" Sahaba (ra) when the Prophet (saw) made statements pertaining to ALL of them (ra) and statements about the good of the particular ones that your cult takes problems with.
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