Subhan'Allaah, i suggest people query who runs this website. What 'aqidah is THIS person from and would be evident as to why they would make up a website such as this. This is indifferent to the point anyway. You say the Ahbash HATE mu'awiyah "anhu" which is a lie and obviously cannot be shown with proof, and there is nothing that exists. Why would they hate him what did he ever do to them personally? Subhan'Allaah, the question is MohammedMufti, why do YOU hate them? I dont know what else to say. Subhan'Allaah, i tried with all I have and all my patience, and you refuse to believe me even though I am telling you I know the "stance" of Mu'awaiyyah with the Ahbash and you still call me a liar. May Allaah guide you. But I am seriously, lost for words.