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**eropiereetuekm** · 02-16-2010, 01:53 PM

First, is that forum run by Naqshabadi Haqqanis? Because, if it is, then we know it is not reliable for information regarding the Ahbash.

Second, forget what is being attributed to the Ahbash. Do you believe Mu`awiya was a fasiq (Naudhubillah), as it appears that that is the accusation?

I would just like to suggest to check the background of who runs this website and then it would be evident as to how they have taken their approach. Lol! Just look at the name of the domain!

maneatinglizard, never, not once, has any reputable teacher or the Shaykh himself ever mentioned the word fasiq in any teaching I have ever heard or of ANY hatred or anything near it, and ONLY stress that we must love him aswell as the other companions. Once, I even heard someone of them say that it is only mentioned as a moment of history, which is included in the story of Imam Ali and Amir Mu'wiya.

I ask you again, for what reason would they to have any personal hatred for him? All that is said about Amir Mu'awiya

is wat is evident in the ahadith of the Rasool 3alayhi salaat wasalaam, nothing more, nothing less.

02-16-2010, 01:53 PM	#39
eropiereetuekm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 426 Senior Member	First, is that forum run by Naqshabadi Haqqanis? Because, if it is, then we know it is not reliable for information regarding the Ahbash. Second, forget what is being attributed to the Ahbash. Do you believe Mu`awiya was a fasiq (Naudhubillah), as it appears that that is the accusation? I would just like to suggest to check the background of who runs this website and then it would be evident as to how they have taken their approach. Lol! Just look at the name of the domain! maneatinglizard, never, not once, has any reputable teacher or the Shaykh himself ever mentioned the word fasiq in any teaching I have ever heard or of ANY hatred or anything near it, and ONLY stress that we must love him aswell as the other companions. Once, I even heard someone of them say that it is only mentioned as a moment of history, which is included in the story of Imam Ali and Amir Mu'wiya. I ask you again, for what reason would they to have any personal hatred for him? All that is said about Amir Mu'awiya is wat is evident in the ahadith of the Rasool 3alayhi salaat wasalaam, nothing more, nothing less.
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