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**loginereQQ** · 04-18-2012, 05:20 PM

Sister,
I may have taken some literary license in describing Yahya as a "beacon of light". I'm not defending all what he says and does.

I see him as a sole Muslim with flaws doing some things for the sake of Islam. Like many of us.

If someone has a specific problem with a concept or idea which he espouses, they should present it. But judging an entire person?
Who can truly "judge" an entire person, except Allah ?
We can judge certain known actions and words.

Does Harun Yahya support Israel?
Does he call for secularism?
I know he is against Darwninism, which is a good position.

Besides determing the kufr or Islam of a person, why do Muslims think they can "judge" an entire person?

Salam 'Aleykum,

Full of wisdom Mawlana Usama.

I think of myself as a defender of the Sunnah yet I'm full of flaws, I hope they don't release a video of me playing video games

I also learned the hard way that it isn't good to attack scholars or students of knowledge, I mean I listen to al-Jaffri (famous Sufi) I take the benefit from his lectures but I may not agree with every single thing he says, I listen to al-'Arefi (famous Salafi) I take the benefit from his lectures as well but I don't agree with all that he says. Some people want you to hate al-Jaffir and stop listening to him they'll show you videos of him doing strange Sufi rituals at a grave site, some people want you to hate and stop watching al-'Arefi they'll show you videos of him speaking in favor of the Saudi government and so on... Once you read the books and biographies of scholars you learn that there is a rich diversity, no need to go bashing everyone that doesn't agree with you.

As far as Harun goes, we said the man is no scholar he has no legitimacy as a 'Alim, No one will ask him for a Fatwa, he is an Islamic researcher and he may have beneficial books or lectures. Is he a sinner? yes he definitely is from what we can see from the video above, but then again who isn't a sinner? spreading the flaws of people like him, people who work in Da'wah, this isn't a good idea.

04-18-2012, 05:20 PM	#25
loginereQQ Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 481 Senior Member	Sister, I may have taken some literary license in describing Yahya as a "beacon of light". I'm not defending all what he says and does. I see him as a sole Muslim with flaws doing some things for the sake of Islam. Like many of us. If someone has a specific problem with a concept or idea which he espouses, they should present it. But judging an entire person? Who can truly "judge" an entire person, except Allah ? We can judge certain known actions and words. Does Harun Yahya support Israel? Does he call for secularism? I know he is against Darwninism, which is a good position. Besides determing the kufr or Islam of a person, why do Muslims think they can "judge" an entire person? Salam 'Aleykum, Full of wisdom Mawlana Usama. I think of myself as a defender of the Sunnah yet I'm full of flaws, I hope they don't release a video of me playing video games I also learned the hard way that it isn't good to attack scholars or students of knowledge, I mean I listen to al-Jaffri (famous Sufi) I take the benefit from his lectures but I may not agree with every single thing he says, I listen to al-'Arefi (famous Salafi) I take the benefit from his lectures as well but I don't agree with all that he says. Some people want you to hate al-Jaffir and stop listening to him they'll show you videos of him doing strange Sufi rituals at a grave site, some people want you to hate and stop watching al-'Arefi they'll show you videos of him speaking in favor of the Saudi government and so on... Once you read the books and biographies of scholars you learn that there is a rich diversity, no need to go bashing everyone that doesn't agree with you. As far as Harun goes, we said the man is no scholar he has no legitimacy as a 'Alim, No one will ask him for a Fatwa, he is an Islamic researcher and he may have beneficial books or lectures. Is he a sinner? yes he definitely is from what we can see from the video above, but then again who isn't a sinner? spreading the flaws of people like him, people who work in Da'wah, this isn't a good idea.
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