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**Michmant** · 04-12-2012, 09:33 PM

Salams

According to evolution Neanderthal people cross mated with modern day humans and we share some of their genetics, how does one refute Human evolution? It's destroying my imam.

Even if we assume all the evidence to be true:

If they mated successfully with humans producing viable offspring and could share a language and culture then they were both humans. That's like saying Africans are a different species from Chinese. Obviously the difference between Neanderthals and H. Sapiens is a little more than that but not different enough for it to have been an issue it seems. The "Africans" (H. Sapiens) overtook the "Europeans" (Neanderthals). It's not unlike how Egypt is predominantly Arab today yet the ethnicity of its people before Islam was definitely not Arab. In the genetics of today's Egyptians, however, you will find traces of ancient Egyptians.

The definition of "species" is being treated inconsistently with here. You can't use a purely genetic definition then carry that definition over into biology or even anthropology.

Also evolutionary science does not say H. Neanderthalis and H. Sapiens were descended from one another but were both descended from a common ancestor (as the usual story goes). If both species truly existed, they were both human.

Btw, has anyone heard anything about a possible timeline for Adam (as)? I always figured that since the number of prophets was well over 100,000 that, being conservative, humanity would have had to be around for at least that many number of years. And genetically speaking all of mankind today trace to individuals around those time periods (around 150,000 years ago).

Also, "Y-Chromosomal Adam" and "Mitochondrial Eve" are not the real Adam (as) and Eve (as). Technically everyone today is also descended from Noah (as). I would assume those genetic ancestors would have been not too far from Noah (as) (and the distance from Noah to Adam only Allah knows, it seems inestimable from our knowledge) but Allah knows best.

It's certainly possible there were already hominid species here and when Adam and Eve began our species they wiped out the other hominids (who were like animals, lacking civilization or the mental capacity of Adam/Eve).

04-12-2012, 09:33 PM	#15
Michmant Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 503 Senior Member	Salams According to evolution Neanderthal people cross mated with modern day humans and we share some of their genetics, how does one refute Human evolution? It's destroying my imam. Even if we assume all the evidence to be true: If they mated successfully with humans producing viable offspring and could share a language and culture then they were both humans. That's like saying Africans are a different species from Chinese. Obviously the difference between Neanderthals and H. Sapiens is a little more than that but not different enough for it to have been an issue it seems. The "Africans" (H. Sapiens) overtook the "Europeans" (Neanderthals). It's not unlike how Egypt is predominantly Arab today yet the ethnicity of its people before Islam was definitely not Arab. In the genetics of today's Egyptians, however, you will find traces of ancient Egyptians. The definition of "species" is being treated inconsistently with here. You can't use a purely genetic definition then carry that definition over into biology or even anthropology. Also evolutionary science does not say H. Neanderthalis and H. Sapiens were descended from one another but were both descended from a common ancestor (as the usual story goes). If both species truly existed, they were both human. Btw, has anyone heard anything about a possible timeline for Adam (as)? I always figured that since the number of prophets was well over 100,000 that, being conservative, humanity would have had to be around for at least that many number of years. And genetically speaking all of mankind today trace to individuals around those time periods (around 150,000 years ago). Also, "Y-Chromosomal Adam" and "Mitochondrial Eve" are not the real Adam (as) and Eve (as). Technically everyone today is also descended from Noah (as). I would assume those genetic ancestors would have been not too far from Noah (as) (and the distance from Noah to Adam only Allah knows, it seems inestimable from our knowledge) but Allah knows best. It's certainly possible there were already hominid species here and when Adam and Eve began our species they wiped out the other hominids (who were like animals, lacking civilization or the mental capacity of Adam/Eve).
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