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**feroiodpiop** · 04-06-2012, 08:48 PM

Do you honestly believe Ibn Taymiyya was the only scholar to forbid Istighatha?

At least be honest with yourself. If you want to follow the later scholars who allowed it, then at least accept that those who don't are also following scholars.

Wa alaikum assalam,

I believe that what Imam Taqiud Deen as Subki (rahimahullah) has said and that is, "It should be known that Tawassul, Istigathah and Shafa'ah through the Prophet (peace be upon him) in the court of Allah is not only allowed but is recommended.It being Legal and recommended is a known fact for everyone who has understanding of deen, this is a deed of Prophets/Messengers, the Salaf-as-Saliheen, the Ulama and general public of Muslims, none of them denied it nor in any time were these deeds were called bad except for when Ibn Taymiyyah came and he started to reject them.." [Shifa us Siqaam fi Ziyarat Khayr al Anaam, Chapter 8, Page No. 357] as I quoted before. I trust him more than I trust you.

I am not criticising anyone, if you don't want to do Istighathah through the Beloved

then don't. It is not Wajib or Fardh, however please do not point fingers at those who do and please do not accuse anyone of Shirk.

04-06-2012, 08:48 PM	#37
feroiodpiop Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 479 Senior Member	Do you honestly believe Ibn Taymiyya was the only scholar to forbid Istighatha? At least be honest with yourself. If you want to follow the later scholars who allowed it, then at least accept that those who don't are also following scholars. Wa alaikum assalam, I believe that what Imam Taqiud Deen as Subki (rahimahullah) has said and that is, "It should be known that Tawassul, Istigathah and Shafa'ah through the Prophet (peace be upon him) in the court of Allah is not only allowed but is recommended.It being Legal and recommended is a known fact for everyone who has understanding of deen, this is a deed of Prophets/Messengers, the Salaf-as-Saliheen, the Ulama and general public of Muslims, none of them denied it nor in any time were these deeds were called bad except for when Ibn Taymiyyah came and he started to reject them.." [Shifa us Siqaam fi Ziyarat Khayr al Anaam, Chapter 8, Page No. 357] as I quoted before. I trust him more than I trust you. I am not criticising anyone, if you don't want to do Istighathah through the Beloved then don't. It is not Wajib or Fardh, however please do not point fingers at those who do and please do not accuse anyone of Shirk.
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