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**hasasnn2345tv** · 04-04-2012, 03:09 AM

I do not think that there is any doubt in the harms of neglecting the Sunnah. The issue is that ´ulama have differed on what Sunnah entails here. I also do not believe that the Sunnah of the beard "far exceeds" that of the miswak and salams, more likely the opposite. Anyways, people are given the leaders that they deserve, and this includes their shuyukh. So Muslims need to blame themselves, for if they better themselves, Allah Ta´ala would change their state for the better. And even if we do believe that a short beard is a shortcoming in following the Sunnah, the scholar with the short beard isn't necessarily less of a master than the bearded one, for surely the latter may have other faults, often hidden so that we do not see them. How often do we not see that?

May Allah bless you sidi.

The hidden faults are those between the person and Allah

. The shaykh with the hidden faults is not displaying them out for everyone to see and follow, whereas a shaved beard is not a hidden fault and can be (and has been) used to justify shaving amongst the laymen (i.e. so and so scholar shaves his beard so there is no harm in following him in doing the same). If a scholar indulges in something haraam in his private time, he is only harming himself. If he does so publicly, then he is not just harming himself, but others as well since he is supposed to be an example, an embodiment of his knowledge - and every action of his will be used to justify deficiencies amongst the awaam.

The ulama are the inheritors of the prophets and should not be deficient in any outward sunnah, especially something as simple as the beard. If a person has a genetic predisposition, then that is a completely different matter but it is not usually the case within the Arab world where shaving and trimming has become commonplace.

04-04-2012, 03:09 AM	#16
hasasnn2345tv Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 501 Senior Member	I do not think that there is any doubt in the harms of neglecting the Sunnah. The issue is that ´ulama have differed on what Sunnah entails here. I also do not believe that the Sunnah of the beard "far exceeds" that of the miswak and salams, more likely the opposite. Anyways, people are given the leaders that they deserve, and this includes their shuyukh. So Muslims need to blame themselves, for if they better themselves, Allah Ta´ala would change their state for the better. And even if we do believe that a short beard is a shortcoming in following the Sunnah, the scholar with the short beard isn't necessarily less of a master than the bearded one, for surely the latter may have other faults, often hidden so that we do not see them. How often do we not see that? May Allah bless you sidi. The hidden faults are those between the person and Allah . The shaykh with the hidden faults is not displaying them out for everyone to see and follow, whereas a shaved beard is not a hidden fault and can be (and has been) used to justify shaving amongst the laymen (i.e. so and so scholar shaves his beard so there is no harm in following him in doing the same). If a scholar indulges in something haraam in his private time, he is only harming himself. If he does so publicly, then he is not just harming himself, but others as well since he is supposed to be an example, an embodiment of his knowledge - and every action of his will be used to justify deficiencies amongst the awaam. The ulama are the inheritors of the prophets and should not be deficient in any outward sunnah, especially something as simple as the beard. If a person has a genetic predisposition, then that is a completely different matter but it is not usually the case within the Arab world where shaving and trimming has become commonplace.
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