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Old 04-04-2012, 07:26 PM   #35
hasasnn2345tv

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Brother, as usual, you seem to miss the point. If you agree that there are valid opinions that say that the shari'i beard is fulfilled by less than a fist length, then how can you say it is a doubtful matter? No one says that the Prophet salallahu alaihi wa salim had a short or even trimmed his mubarak beard. As you said we have proof of Sahabah trimming it to a fist length, but is there any proof that this is the limit? Do any Sahabah say that the beard can only be trimmed to a fist length, otherwise it is against shari'ah? No. If there were such sayings, it would be different. So some ulama said that trimming to a fist length is the limit, while others said trimming to whatever length is permissable, this is valid ikhtilaaf and no one can say otherwise. You can stand upon your opinion, but you can't call another person doubtful, since you could be wrong and they could be right.

As far as the wudu issue, yes there is evidence for both clearly, BUT even then the afdaal thing to do is try and fulfill all the positions of all the mathaahib (as you mentioned). But the beard length issue is NOT clear issue, since Rasulullah salallahu alaihi wa salim and the Sahabah radiyallah anhum did not specify the limits.

Anyway, it is a small matter, how about someone talk about pride or something that will really effect us. We can have a big beard but if we are too proud to take benefit from the ulama, how will this help us? Many people are saddly like this, myself included.


You asked me a direct question so let me ask you one in return:

Would you trust a shaykh who delays all his salah without any appropriate reason? He actually makes an effort so that he ends up praying 'Fajr just before sunrise, prays Dhuhr just before 'Asr starts, prays Maghrib just before the redness of the sky disappears, prays 'Isha just before Fajr starts.

Is such a person worthy of being relied upon to guide you?

Also, you cannot say what is or isn't afdhal when it comes to the wudhu issue between the opinions of the madhaahib (unless one is a scholar) since both sides are proven from the Qur'an and the sunnah by the ulama of the madhaahib - so even refraining from doing something that Rasoolullah did (i.e. touching a woman after wudhu and then praying) can be considered going against the sunnah, albeit not makrooh.

And yes, the minimum length of the beard is an issue of ikhtilaaf but all the ulama are on a consensus that a full beard is the beard of Rasoolullah . To have a beard less than a fist length and consider it sunnah IS something that is doubtful. It may fulfill the requirement of a beard but it is most definitely not the sunnah beard - upon this, there is no ikhtilaaf. So, why go with the minimum when there is ikhtilaaf upon it and not go to the maximum, upon which there is no ikhtilaaf? The sufi avoids the doubtful matters as if they were haraam. The minimum length of the beard may be different amongst the various madhahib but the sunnah length is not. There is no ikhtilaaf on the sunnah length of the beard.
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