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**RooldpalApata** · 04-03-2012, 07:15 AM

I had my suspicions for sometime that my wife's parents were lax in purchasing meat from a butcher certified by HMC (Halaal Monitoring Committee). The suspicions arose based on takeaways that have been purchased on the odd occasion, which has not been HMC certified. Today, by questioning in a roundabout way, I ascertained that meat was purchased from a butcher, whose certification had been removed. That is not to say that the butcher used is haraam.

Now, if I say to my wife that I will not be eating meat at her parents, based on the fact that this is the 2nd instance that uncertified meat has been purchased, this will result in an emotional outburst comprising 2 points:

1. I am having a go at her parents again (NB: I permit her to point out the wrongs of my parents, so that she can offload, and so when criticism is justified, I will accept. Unfortunately the reverse is not always true).
2. This is why you have waswasa issue, because you delve, and hence I am not accepting your judgement on the matter.

There is the added issue of my in-laws, who are very hospitable, thinking, how dare this 'kid' have the audacity to imply that we are consuming doubtful meat. Relations will be strained, and because I am weak myself, the result will be scrutiny and criticism of my actions, e.g.

"look at him, he didn't pray his Salah with jamat, but he is having a go at us about meat." (Your typical 5-year-old retort).

What is the best way to address the issue?

First of all, you have to know what you're talking about. Just because a meat is not HMC certified doesn't mean it is not halal. It could be that HMC did not reach that area. Or that the area already is a trustworthy area of meat. It could be many reasons. However, if HMC specifically stated that this meat is not killed in islamic manner, then you can say that according to their opinion it is not halal. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are differences in opinion on this, but HMC takes the most safest of approaches, hence its high status. I also have no idea what I'm talking about here but I thought I might give you some hint as to how you have to know what you're talking about when you want to talk about it. Once you've established that, then act upon that. If what they're eating is totally haram according to a unanimous decision among the scholars, then you can let them know about it and then it will be their decision. Then say you won't eat because of that decision but speak with hikma.
Salaam

04-03-2012, 07:15 AM	#5
RooldpalApata Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 461 Senior Member	I had my suspicions for sometime that my wife's parents were lax in purchasing meat from a butcher certified by HMC (Halaal Monitoring Committee). The suspicions arose based on takeaways that have been purchased on the odd occasion, which has not been HMC certified. Today, by questioning in a roundabout way, I ascertained that meat was purchased from a butcher, whose certification had been removed. That is not to say that the butcher used is haraam. Now, if I say to my wife that I will not be eating meat at her parents, based on the fact that this is the 2nd instance that uncertified meat has been purchased, this will result in an emotional outburst comprising 2 points: 1. I am having a go at her parents again (NB: I permit her to point out the wrongs of my parents, so that she can offload, and so when criticism is justified, I will accept. Unfortunately the reverse is not always true). 2. This is why you have waswasa issue, because you delve, and hence I am not accepting your judgement on the matter. There is the added issue of my in-laws, who are very hospitable, thinking, how dare this 'kid' have the audacity to imply that we are consuming doubtful meat. Relations will be strained, and because I am weak myself, the result will be scrutiny and criticism of my actions, e.g. "look at him, he didn't pray his Salah with jamat, but he is having a go at us about meat." (Your typical 5-year-old retort). What is the best way to address the issue? First of all, you have to know what you're talking about. Just because a meat is not HMC certified doesn't mean it is not halal. It could be that HMC did not reach that area. Or that the area already is a trustworthy area of meat. It could be many reasons. However, if HMC specifically stated that this meat is not killed in islamic manner, then you can say that according to their opinion it is not halal. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are differences in opinion on this, but HMC takes the most safest of approaches, hence its high status. I also have no idea what I'm talking about here but I thought I might give you some hint as to how you have to know what you're talking about when you want to talk about it. Once you've established that, then act upon that. If what they're eating is totally haram according to a unanimous decision among the scholars, then you can let them know about it and then it will be their decision. Then say you won't eat because of that decision but speak with hikma. Salaam
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