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**Zpxbawtz** · 04-01-2012, 08:09 PM

Look up the statements of shaykh bin baz, shaykh fawzan, shaykh ibn uthaymin, shaykh salih al munajjid, shaykh ibn taymiyaa, shaykh ibn qayiim etc.Also non-saudi scholars like Israr Ahmad. May Allah have mercy on all of them.
You can find most of their statements at alifta.net. May Allah guide all of us.

Sufism means purifying one's souls and heart - getting closer to ALLAH - via continuous Dhikr - remembrance of ALLAH - continuous Wazifas - Sufism is ( purifying one's nafs from all bad deeds - thinking only about ALLAH and hereafter - )

for exmaple Qadariyya order Teachings emphasise the struggle against the desires of the ego. Gilani described it as "the greater struggle" (jihad) This has two stages; first against deeds forbidden by religious law and second against fundamental vices such as greed, vanity, and fear. A true seeker of God should overcome all desires other than wishing to be taken into God's custody

The Chishti Order is famous for its emphasis on love, tolerance, and openness. The order traces its spiritual origin through various saints all the way to the Islamic caliph Ali and from him to the Islamic prophet Muhammad.
The Chishti saints had two hallmarks which differentiate them from other Sufi saints. The first was their ethical relations to the institutional powers. This meant voluntarily keeping a distance from the ruler or the government mechanism. It didn't matter if the ruler was a patron or a disciple: he was always kept at bay since it was felt that mixing with the ruler will corrupt the soul by indulging it in worldly matters. In his last discourse to disciples, Khawaja Moinuddin Chishti said:
“ Never seek any help, charity, or favors from anybody except God. Never go the court of kings, but never refuse to bless and help the needy and the poor, the widow, and the orphan, if they come to your door. ”

The second distinctive dimension was related to the religious practice of the Chishtis. It was proactive rather than passive; a ceaseless search for the divine other. In this respect the Chishtis followed a particular ritual more zealously then any other brotherhood. This was the practice of sama, evoking the divine presence through song or listening to music. The genius of the Chishti saints was that they accommodated the practice of sema with the full range of Muslim obligations

how are they not according to Islam ?

04-01-2012, 08:09 PM	#8
Zpxbawtz Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 660 Senior Member	Look up the statements of shaykh bin baz, shaykh fawzan, shaykh ibn uthaymin, shaykh salih al munajjid, shaykh ibn taymiyaa, shaykh ibn qayiim etc.Also non-saudi scholars like Israr Ahmad. May Allah have mercy on all of them. You can find most of their statements at alifta.net. May Allah guide all of us. Sufism means purifying one's souls and heart - getting closer to ALLAH - via continuous Dhikr - remembrance of ALLAH - continuous Wazifas - Sufism is ( purifying one's nafs from all bad deeds - thinking only about ALLAH and hereafter - ) for exmaple Qadariyya order Teachings emphasise the struggle against the desires of the ego. Gilani described it as "the greater struggle" (jihad) This has two stages; first against deeds forbidden by religious law and second against fundamental vices such as greed, vanity, and fear. A true seeker of God should overcome all desires other than wishing to be taken into God's custody The Chishti Order is famous for its emphasis on love, tolerance, and openness. The order traces its spiritual origin through various saints all the way to the Islamic caliph Ali and from him to the Islamic prophet Muhammad. The Chishti saints had two hallmarks which differentiate them from other Sufi saints. The first was their ethical relations to the institutional powers. This meant voluntarily keeping a distance from the ruler or the government mechanism. It didn't matter if the ruler was a patron or a disciple: he was always kept at bay since it was felt that mixing with the ruler will corrupt the soul by indulging it in worldly matters. In his last discourse to disciples, Khawaja Moinuddin Chishti said: “ Never seek any help, charity, or favors from anybody except God. Never go the court of kings, but never refuse to bless and help the needy and the poor, the widow, and the orphan, if they come to your door. ” The second distinctive dimension was related to the religious practice of the Chishtis. It was proactive rather than passive; a ceaseless search for the divine other. In this respect the Chishtis followed a particular ritual more zealously then any other brotherhood. This was the practice of sama, evoking the divine presence through song or listening to music. The genius of the Chishti saints was that they accommodated the practice of sema with the full range of Muslim obligations how are they not according to Islam ?
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