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**oxinsnepe** · 03-13-2012, 01:04 AM

sorry br. can't help you with the hadith, but will say this that if there is a hadith that says that, and i do not doubt it for a famous Scholar says so, then yet for something to be fardh, it's authenticity needs to be taken into account; wajib is what is mandatory/compulsory [just like fardh is] on a person, but it leaves the possibility of a difference of opinion i THINK, maybe due to the not absolutely conclusive evidence, thus for such a hadith to make a ruling fardh, it may have to be of the totally undoubted level of authenticity which is mutawaitr; anything below that could render a ruling wajib

the best approach to see if that Scholars ruling is valid [for himself] is to see wether he is qualified as a Mujtahid scholar; if he is not, then he should not be doing ijtihad in the first place; if he is, then he himself could adhere to his jitihad but no one esle, for all other schools and opinions of mujtahids have been prohibbited by the consensus except the four traditional schools

Or, he may have used the term "fard" for the sake of simplicity and to stress it's importance, similarly to how sometimes "haram" is used instead of "makruh tahriman" when presenting a ruling to "common people" and there is fear that they may misunderstand it's gravity and say "oh, it's just makruh".

Wajib or fard in terminology, the practical result is basically the same: it's obligatory to keep a beard which is at least a fistful long (at least according to the Hanafi Madhhab).

03-13-2012, 01:04 AM	#13
oxinsnepe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 489 Senior Member	sorry br. can't help you with the hadith, but will say this that if there is a hadith that says that, and i do not doubt it for a famous Scholar says so, then yet for something to be fardh, it's authenticity needs to be taken into account; wajib is what is mandatory/compulsory [just like fardh is] on a person, but it leaves the possibility of a difference of opinion i THINK, maybe due to the not absolutely conclusive evidence, thus for such a hadith to make a ruling fardh, it may have to be of the totally undoubted level of authenticity which is mutawaitr; anything below that could render a ruling wajib the best approach to see if that Scholars ruling is valid [for himself] is to see wether he is qualified as a Mujtahid scholar; if he is not, then he should not be doing ijtihad in the first place; if he is, then he himself could adhere to his jitihad but no one esle, for all other schools and opinions of mujtahids have been prohibbited by the consensus except the four traditional schools Or, he may have used the term "fard" for the sake of simplicity and to stress it's importance, similarly to how sometimes "haram" is used instead of "makruh tahriman" when presenting a ruling to "common people" and there is fear that they may misunderstand it's gravity and say "oh, it's just makruh". Wajib or fard in terminology, the practical result is basically the same: it's obligatory to keep a beard which is at least a fistful long (at least according to the Hanafi Madhhab).
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