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**hygtfrdes** · 03-25-2012, 11:28 PM

Salaamu alaiykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuhu
I know that it is haraam to shave the beard and trim it beyond a fist length. However, according to the scholars of saudi on alifta.com they say that even trimming the beard to a fist length is not good and it should be allowed to grow as long as it can as the prophet Muhammad PBUH beard was up to his chest (which I know most hanafis would be against). But nevertheless I sport that opinion because the scholars used very good proof. Anyways, before this turns into a madhab vs salafi fiqh war (which is stupid because I don't even call myself salafi), I want to know whether, according to the same opinion of the scholars of Saudi, that I can atleast trim those parts that are uneven or stick out. I don't mind keeping a beard with sticking out bits if that is the best way, but what is reeeaaaallly bugging me is when one person says don't trim that because it's not allowed, and another person says to trim it because it's sunnah!?!? How can that be accepted as a difference in opinion? Something being a sunnah to something being disliked? Does anyone know?
Jazakallahu khaiyrun

The difference lies in the principles underlying each school.
The Hanafis base their opinion on the practice of 'Abdillah ibn 'Umar, some other Sahaba and the Salaf, all of whom used to allow trimming the beard.
So keeping the beard is wajib according to most ulama. Trimming it to one fist length is allowed in the Hanafi school. It is disliked in the Salafi school becase they do not accept the practice of Ibn 'Umar as Hujjah. Incidentally, the scholar whom the Salafis count as their greatest, Shaykh Nasir al Albani is on record as saying that the Sunna is one fistful and longer than that is bid'ah. Such differences are common and the root of the differences is not easily visible to the 'awaam which is why they should not enter into such debates without a thorough grounding in the "Usul al Fiqh.

03-25-2012, 11:28 PM	#14
hygtfrdes Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	Salaamu alaiykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuhu I know that it is haraam to shave the beard and trim it beyond a fist length. However, according to the scholars of saudi on alifta.com they say that even trimming the beard to a fist length is not good and it should be allowed to grow as long as it can as the prophet Muhammad PBUH beard was up to his chest (which I know most hanafis would be against). But nevertheless I sport that opinion because the scholars used very good proof. Anyways, before this turns into a madhab vs salafi fiqh war (which is stupid because I don't even call myself salafi), I want to know whether, according to the same opinion of the scholars of Saudi, that I can atleast trim those parts that are uneven or stick out. I don't mind keeping a beard with sticking out bits if that is the best way, but what is reeeaaaallly bugging me is when one person says don't trim that because it's not allowed, and another person says to trim it because it's sunnah!?!? How can that be accepted as a difference in opinion? Something being a sunnah to something being disliked? Does anyone know? Jazakallahu khaiyrun The difference lies in the principles underlying each school. The Hanafis base their opinion on the practice of 'Abdillah ibn 'Umar, some other Sahaba and the Salaf, all of whom used to allow trimming the beard. So keeping the beard is wajib according to most ulama. Trimming it to one fist length is allowed in the Hanafi school. It is disliked in the Salafi school becase they do not accept the practice of Ibn 'Umar as Hujjah. Incidentally, the scholar whom the Salafis count as their greatest, Shaykh Nasir al Albani is on record as saying that the Sunna is one fistful and longer than that is bid'ah. Such differences are common and the root of the differences is not easily visible to the 'awaam which is why they should not enter into such debates without a thorough grounding in the "Usul al Fiqh.
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