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**hygtfrdes** · 03-26-2012, 02:14 AM

Abu Tamim,

Some scholars would argue that the Hadith implies one should keep a beard (whether wajib or mandub, let us leave that), and that:

1) Actions of Sahaba are not hujjah, and this is technically, more or less, a principle in Shafi´i Usul.

2) If it is to be taken as a hujjah (or at the very least at least a source of guidance), a Sahabi trimming his beard would only indicate that it is not impermissible to do so, and the specific length he trimmed it down to would not necessitate it being a defined limit as such, as there is no text expressing such. This is why you will find an Imam of the Shafi´i school like Al-Ghazali (rah) saying that keeping a short beard fulfills the Sunah of the beard.

We may agree or disagree.

wa'Allahu a´lam.

Rifai.
1) Actions of the Sahaba are a hujjah is our school.
2) This is where we have to disagree. Because we get nothing authentic from the Prophet

about trimming the beard, yet we get it from Sahaba like Ibn `Umar, Abu Hurayra & Ibn 'Abbas as well as from many tabi'in. And practically everyone from the Khayr al Qur'oon talks about a fistful. Secondly the Hanafi school takes trimming to a fistful as the MAXIMUM that can be trimmed because we have nothing from the texts or the practice of the Salaf about a beard less than a fist.

03-26-2012, 02:14 AM	#21
hygtfrdes Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	Abu Tamim, Some scholars would argue that the Hadith implies one should keep a beard (whether wajib or mandub, let us leave that), and that: 1) Actions of Sahaba are not hujjah, and this is technically, more or less, a principle in Shafi´i Usul. 2) If it is to be taken as a hujjah (or at the very least at least a source of guidance), a Sahabi trimming his beard would only indicate that it is not impermissible to do so, and the specific length he trimmed it down to would not necessitate it being a defined limit as such, as there is no text expressing such. This is why you will find an Imam of the Shafi´i school like Al-Ghazali (rah) saying that keeping a short beard fulfills the Sunah of the beard. We may agree or disagree. wa'Allahu a´lam. Rifai. 1) Actions of the Sahaba are a hujjah is our school. 2) This is where we have to disagree. Because we get nothing authentic from the Prophet about trimming the beard, yet we get it from Sahaba like Ibn `Umar, Abu Hurayra & Ibn 'Abbas as well as from many tabi'in. And practically everyone from the Khayr al Qur'oon talks about a fistful. Secondly the Hanafi school takes trimming to a fistful as the MAXIMUM that can be trimmed because we have nothing from the texts or the practice of the Salaf about a beard less than a fist.
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