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**kertUtire** · 03-25-2012, 12:42 PM

in retrospect i think the title of this thread "the status of ibn rushd" was a poor choice. as i was not so interested in him personally or his status but rather in his ideas.

Brother I appreciate your retrospection and humility.

Why do you want to study his ideas on philosophy?

I do not trust any Christian academic, intellectual, or religious representation of Islam or Muslims. Allah (SWT) directly described them as misguided, and in their misguidance, they have attempted to misguide many others by misrepresenting the Truth too many times. For them, it is part of their way of life to distort the Truth to suit their aims.

I am also convinced that much of the Christian works based on Ibn Rushd are based on altered works by priests and monks over the centuries within their own ranks, as the Church was infamous at misrepresenting Islam and Muslim contributions to humanity. And I think various Muslims today cite these distortions and attribute them to Ibn Rushd which they gaather from Christian sources.

I for one studied Bidayatul Mujtahid with various ulama over the years and all recognized it as a highly valuable and acceptable achievement and contribution to Islamic culture. It's deficiency was largely omitting the Hanbali school as it was not highly recognized at that time. Many ulama built upon it. Fiqh us Sunnah was written based on it. It is one of the most valued books in my library.

As for his works on philosophy and the distortions attributed to him, I have not studied them. As well, the ulama I studied with did not raise them. I don't see the need to do so as we have so many dire problems overwhelming us at this very moment.

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kertUtire Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 392 Senior Member	in retrospect i think the title of this thread "the status of ibn rushd" was a poor choice. as i was not so interested in him personally or his status but rather in his ideas. Brother I appreciate your retrospection and humility. Why do you want to study his ideas on philosophy? I do not trust any Christian academic, intellectual, or religious representation of Islam or Muslims. Allah (SWT) directly described them as misguided, and in their misguidance, they have attempted to misguide many others by misrepresenting the Truth too many times. For them, it is part of their way of life to distort the Truth to suit their aims. I am also convinced that much of the Christian works based on Ibn Rushd are based on altered works by priests and monks over the centuries within their own ranks, as the Church was infamous at misrepresenting Islam and Muslim contributions to humanity. And I think various Muslims today cite these distortions and attribute them to Ibn Rushd which they gaather from Christian sources. I for one studied Bidayatul Mujtahid with various ulama over the years and all recognized it as a highly valuable and acceptable achievement and contribution to Islamic culture. It's deficiency was largely omitting the Hanbali school as it was not highly recognized at that time. Many ulama built upon it. Fiqh us Sunnah was written based on it. It is one of the most valued books in my library. As for his works on philosophy and the distortions attributed to him, I have not studied them. As well, the ulama I studied with did not raise them. I don't see the need to do so as we have so many dire problems overwhelming us at this very moment.
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