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**sniskelsowwef** · 03-22-2012, 05:42 AM

Are you sure about this?

Post #2:

Or did you mean, we Muslims aren't doing enough to tackle it (in accordance with Islam)?

It is apparent to me that the word "bribe" could have various meaning, and i'm not too sure of the translation that has been presented i.e. what is the definition of the bribe that is mentioned in the hadith. So this hadith I can't accept without knowing this. Translations could be misleading.

Now, I make my conclusions based on the lack of answers coming forth, and I can easily be confident in assuming that the muslim mindset about bribery is that it's fairplay and whoever can afford to do it, good for them.

i will do some research into this in the near future, but for now i'll have to leave it as is.

Also helpful is sister Acacia's outlook on this is her association of bribery with LEGAL hidden charges like restaurants charging tips/service charges and postage and packaging charges on purchases online.

two are quite distinct e.g. if you think a restuarant charged a service charge that was excessive then you can refuse to pay it (talking to the manager, they will porbs take it off), worse comes to worse, you don't go to that restaurant again. P&P-if you don't agree with it, don't buy,or else take it as part of the full cost.

Compare this to: Your son gets top grades in his college/school (i.e. national test for 18 years olds). Enough so he qualifies to get into Yale/Harvard/Oxford/Cambridge etc.. but on application the Principles/Deans of the universities ask for bribes. One uni says 20k, other says 25k one even says 50k, to accept the student. If this is the same as putting an extra few pounds on p&P then something got lost in translation

Jazakallah

03-22-2012, 05:42 AM	#12
sniskelsowwef Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 506 Senior Member	Are you sure about this? Post #2: Or did you mean, we Muslims aren't doing enough to tackle it (in accordance with Islam)? It is apparent to me that the word "bribe" could have various meaning, and i'm not too sure of the translation that has been presented i.e. what is the definition of the bribe that is mentioned in the hadith. So this hadith I can't accept without knowing this. Translations could be misleading. Now, I make my conclusions based on the lack of answers coming forth, and I can easily be confident in assuming that the muslim mindset about bribery is that it's fairplay and whoever can afford to do it, good for them. i will do some research into this in the near future, but for now i'll have to leave it as is. Also helpful is sister Acacia's outlook on this is her association of bribery with LEGAL hidden charges like restaurants charging tips/service charges and postage and packaging charges on purchases online. two are quite distinct e.g. if you think a restuarant charged a service charge that was excessive then you can refuse to pay it (talking to the manager, they will porbs take it off), worse comes to worse, you don't go to that restaurant again. P&P-if you don't agree with it, don't buy,or else take it as part of the full cost. Compare this to: Your son gets top grades in his college/school (i.e. national test for 18 years olds). Enough so he qualifies to get into Yale/Harvard/Oxford/Cambridge etc.. but on application the Principles/Deans of the universities ask for bribes. One uni says 20k, other says 25k one even says 50k, to accept the student. If this is the same as putting an extra few pounds on p&P then something got lost in translation Jazakallah
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